Two of those links that Quick posted are stories of my Daughter's first deer and one I shot using her rifle. We were both loaded up with 180 grain Cor-Bon cartridges. They did their job. Her deer was 109 yards away. Mine was 40 yards. Her deer ran about 20 yards and died. A complete pass through, breaking ribs, piercing, his heart, and lungs. Mine was dead right there. He might have quivered once. I liked her gun so much I got one for myself and will carry it this season. I'm a believer!