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What stock should I use?

Modify and paint the factory wood stocks
Choate varmint stocks
Factory synthetic stocks
I'm crazy and should leave the factory stocks un touched

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Let's Ponder Stocks...
« on: December 26, 2007, 05:59:36 PM »
Ok, I like the factory stocks, but there are a few places I would sand down to fit my hand better.

I want a camo gun, as it's my varmint sniper...

And I also like heavier guns to shoot accurate with, but in the field they kinda stink....

I am not asking you guys to tell me what to do, just want some opinions from ya'll.


Thanks!  Have fun! 

Rick :D

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2007, 07:53:51 PM »
Factory synthetic stocks are all Choate stocks, but I think you mean the Choate Varmint stock. You left one option out, the factory laminated stocks which are my favorite, just get em in camo laminate. The factory also offers synthetic camo and wood camo stocks. ;)

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Camo laminate, uncheckered, also available checkered


t-hole camo laminate


As you can tell, I really like the factory laminated stocks! ;D
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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2007, 01:22:08 AM »
Yeah, the choate varmint stocks  ::)   Poll changed   ;D 

And I am going to paint the whole gun too, not just the stocks, so the laminate stocks are too pretty for that.  Maybe my next handi  will get a laminate stock set  ;)

Keep those votes coming in!! 

Thanks for the neat pics of the stocks too!!!

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2007, 01:31:48 AM »
in general I prefer the real walnut checkered TDC or Buff Classic stocks from H&R but also have and enjoy the H&R Camo Laminate. Another choice would be to scape off the lousy single finish (stain and finish mixed together) that is used on the standard palletwod stocks and properly stain and finish the stocks with whichever finish you prefer, I happen to like Tung Oil with a satin or "oil finish" as opposed the a Weatherby gloss type of finish....<><....:)
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2007, 02:19:05 AM »
I did your option #1 to both my Huntsman and centerfire fore ends. Way too klunky for me rasp worked well on stock also!

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2007, 03:15:40 AM »
Oh yes, seeing that picture reminds me, I sometimes remove the pistol grip and change the issue buttstock into a straight English or "squire" style stock, very comfortable and fast handling. The next project is to do that same thing to a Monte Carlo stock and perhaps to do a little shaping or thinning of the leading edge of the Monte Carlo section itself to resemble a Shutzen style stock. I do believe I saw one similar to that here one time and it has intrigued me ever since....<><....:) 





Thanks for adding those pictues Tim.....<><....:)
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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2007, 03:23:18 AM »
When I switched my 223 from wood to Choate varmint fore arm my groups cut in half.
I used the synthetic monti carlo stock (much slimmer than the wood) and painted sandstone.

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2007, 03:26:52 AM »
Tim, you know thats only 1/2 of yours.  Where are the rest?  Whats the total up to now including the ones on order?  Are you missing any callibers?
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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2007, 05:02:28 AM »
Not that I did'nt like the other choices, just had other ideas, and so made my own stock, from an old burl slab that I was using as a yard table.
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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2007, 05:20:37 AM »
If you want the weight, the Choate Varmint stock is the heaviest of the bunch at 2lbs-2oz, followed by the factory laminated stocks. Of course you can always add weight to all of the stocks bolt holes except the Varmint. ;)

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2007, 05:49:47 AM »
Elkslayer that is a verrrry nice looking stock.
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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2007, 06:24:21 AM »
elkslayer4x5, that is a nice stock and it appears to be an outstanding piece of wood, you must really have great yard tables where you are!! The workmanship looks to be nice also. Congratulations on a great job, especially from scratch....<><....:)
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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2007, 06:46:55 AM »
Good stuff, guys.

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2007, 06:56:02 AM »
Elkslayer,
Beautiful wood and extra fine workmanship from what I can see. You did a GREAT job!!!!!! ;)

As far as the options for the poll, I checked the only one close to what I liked. I'm not a synthetic or laminate person. I love the real woods. AND I don't use stains.... I like the natural woods and their colors. If you would have had an option of "making a wood stock or purchase natural wood" I would have checked it over all of them. Choate most likely has wonderful stocks, but as I say, I don't like the synthetics especially the style of the Choate Varmint/Sniper stocks. The forend will pass, if it was in natural woods. I am currently working on a Gunstocks, Inc Fiddle-back Maple thumb-hole Stinger. I like the style of that and the rollover stock. On completion I will of course post a photo of it.
And something really needs to be done with the pallet wood stocks from the factory. The synthetics are much better than those. Definitely!!!!

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2007, 07:31:52 AM »
I got a set of choate gray camo survivor stocks that were offered yrs ago. Kurt
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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2007, 08:44:31 AM »
Wow, A lot of replies!  Awesome!  Keep them coming! 


I really like the varmint stocks but I like how the factory stocks look too.


Keep voting!!

Thanks guys!
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2007, 09:51:52 AM »
Isn't it great that people don't like the same things. Sure would be a boring world if we did.
There are some really great ideas that folks have. If you haven't looked for a while go through the photos and see what people have done with their Handis. Great work folks, great work.
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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2007, 01:35:40 PM »
Can i vote option 5 -- all of the above







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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2007, 02:24:25 PM »
Oh yes, seeing that picture reminds me, I sometimes remove the pistol grip and change the issue buttstock into a straight English or "squire" style stock, very comfortable and fast handling.

Could you post a picture of one you've removed the pistol grip from?  That is one project I would like to try on mine.

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2007, 02:30:23 PM »
Fred has done some wonderful work reshaping Ultra stocks to make them more appealing and not so bulky!

http://www.angelfire.com/ma/ZERMEL/257wp3.html

Oh yes, seeing that picture reminds me, I sometimes remove the pistol grip and change the issue buttstock into a straight English or "squire" style stock, very comfortable and fast handling.

Could you post a picture of one you've removed the pistol grip from?  That is one project I would like to try on mine.

I just happen to have a couple of MSP's pics, I added them to his post.

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2007, 02:39:06 PM »

I just happen to have a couple of MSP's pics, I added them to his post.

Tim

Thank you Tim (and MSP).  That is what I had in mind.

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #21 on: December 27, 2007, 05:56:13 PM »
Not that I did'nt like the other choices, just had other ideas, and so made my own stock, from an old burl slab that I was using as a yard table.

I have been a carpenter all my life!!!!!!!!!!!! I have to say that is some beautiful work. You have talent for sure. Good for you. I hope it shoots as good as it looks. Dale
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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2007, 10:39:43 AM »
I did your option #1 to both my Huntsman and centerfire fore ends. Way too klunky for me rasp worked well on stock also!

I've done a little whittling as well.
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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2007, 01:37:38 PM »
What is the difference between the rifle stocks and the shotgun stocks in terms of LOP and drop at the comb or is there any?  I see the fore ends are not the same at all and I was just wondering if there would be a problem putting a shotgun stock on a rifle.  I would like to cut the pistol grip off of a set for my .44 and really like the shotgun fore end better.

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2007, 01:55:47 PM »
Pallet wood Forends are all the same now, on older firearms had the beavertail forend on both rifle and shotgun. LOP is listed for all firearms on their website. All stocks are interchangable with a few exceptions on the 10ga shotgun and 12ga slug barrel forends.

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« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2007, 02:08:21 PM »
The LOP is 1/4 inch more on the rifle but the comb and heel drop are not listed on the rifle at all so I guess there are the same 1 1/2 inch drop at the comb and 2 inches at the heel as the shotgun.

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2007, 03:38:43 PM »
Does anyone know how much the Buffalo Classic stocks go for? I don't see them listed in the 2007 price list.
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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2007, 03:42:56 PM »
Seems to me they're about $122.50, but don't quote me on that, give H&R a call or email and ask em next week, then post the part number and price for us so I can add it to the price list page. ;)

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« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2007, 07:29:04 PM »


I'm kind of partial to just plain old wood. Sometimes you get lucky and get
a stock with some good grain like my Hornet. The wood on this one is just
the way it came out of the box.



Sometimes you can refinish the pallet wood with Tru Oil like this and it turns out pretty good.

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Re: Let's Ponder Stocks...
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2007, 05:18:09 AM »
Elkslayer you ever want to sell that set I got the first I'll takem name your price. That is exactly what I am looking for to put on the .225 winchester chamber job I'm having done I love that rollover style. Kurt
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