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Offline David Carey

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What model do I have? Start here
« on: February 17, 2008, 01:16:39 PM »
Small frame models.
11 (357 Mag) Service Pork Chop
12 (357 Mag) Target Pork Chop
14 (357 Mag) Service Pork Chop
15 (357 Mag) Target Pork Chop
14 (357 Mag) Service
15 (357 Mag) Target
722 (.22 Long Rifle) Target
22M (.22 Win. Mag) Target
722M (.22 Win. Mag) Target
8-2 (.38 Special) Service
708 (.38 Special) Service
9-2 (.38 Special) Target
709 (.38 Special) Target
14-2 (.357 Mag) Service
714 (.357 Mag) Service
15-2 (.357 Mag) Target
715 (.357 Mag) Target

Models starting with a 7 are stainless guns.
Service models had fixed rear sights
Target models have adjustable rear sights

There are other models please help fill in the blanks.

The most common small frame guns are the model 15 and 15-2, the thought is the -2 guns have minor differences when Monson started manufacturing the guns and labeled it the -2. One of the changes noted is shape of the hammer.

When Bob Serva bought the Dan Wesson company and moved it to Norwich NY, he retooled the shop with all new CNC machines and the first guns he produced were marked "First issue" they went back to labeling the model 15 and 715 dropping the -2.

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Re: What model do I have? Start here
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2008, 02:58:07 AM »
Here's a few more:

Small frame
32 (32 H&R Mag)
732 (32 H&R Mag) stainless
3220 (32-20 Winchester)
73220 (32-20 Winchester) stainless

Large frame
7360 (360 Dan Wesson) stainless Norwich Production only
41 (41 Magnum)
741 (41 Magnum) stainless
44 (44 Magnum)
744 (44 Magnum) stainless
45 (45 Long Colt)
745 (45 Long Colt) stainless
7460 (460 Rowland) stainless only Norwich production only also fires 45 acp, 45 Win Mag

Supermag Frame
40 (357 Supermag- 357 Maximum)
740 (357 Supermag - 357 Maximum) stainless
375 (375 Supermag) Blued only Palmer production only
7414 (414 Supermag) stainless Palmer production 25 units Norwich production very limited (Don't know if blued was ever produced???)
445 (445 Supermag)
7445 (445 Supermag) stainless

There is also a SuperRam Silhouette version available in many calibers, Norwich production with an under cut partridge front sight covered with a slab-sided hood, the rear sight is a Bomar with 18 clicks per revolution. These guns are marked with a SRS-1 on the barrel hood.

The Model 11 service and the model 12 target both had the pork chop barrel shrouds and the exposed barrel nut on the end. The early Model 14 and 15 had the pork chop barrel shrouds, but the barrel nut was recessed. The pork chop shroud was redesigned to the current style when the model designation was changed to 14-2 and 15-2.

During the Palmer manufacture period (Wesson Firearms Co., Inc) there were some single action only 22 caliber target guns manufactured . These models were only manufactured in blue or stainless with 10" barrel assemblies, either vent or vent heavy. The single action only guns were designated with a 6 before the model number.

622-V10 Blue, single action only 22 cal.
622-VH10 Blue, single action only 22 cal.
6722-V10 stainless, single action only 22 cal.
6722VH10 stainless, single action only 22 cal.

The stainless 357 magnum Action Cup with the large slab barrel shroud was just designated as the "Action Cup", no numerical model number.

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Re: What model do I have? Start here
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2008, 03:02:15 AM »
There was also the 5 shot 38 Super "Lil Dan" stainless Palmer production only. Not sure of the proper model number. Been looking for one of those for a long time.

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Re: What model do I have? Start here
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2008, 03:17:18 AM »
For those that are interested in the 1911 Series, here is a partial list.
This information was compiled by Dave Severns from the 1911forum.
I just want to give credit where it is due.

Prefixes:
PT = Patriot
RZ = Razorback
PM = Pointman
K03 = Panther

Intermediate:
E = Expert = Adjustable sight
M = Marksman = Fixed sight
DP = Dave Pruitt
G = Guardian
GD = Guardian Duce (2-Tone)
EXP = Experimental
HC = High Capacity
1 = Major
2 = Minor 2
3 = Minor
7 = Model Seven
9 = 9mm
A = Aussie
C = Commander
CBOB = Commander Bobtail
CCO = Commander COncealed
XS = Model XS (similar to Panther; often refered to as 'XSS' as it was a stainless gun)

Suffix:
S = Stainless
B = Blue
C = Checkered Frontstrap
FS = Fixed Sights
AS = Adjustable Sights
10 = 10mm
45 = 45acp

i know alot of guys aren't interest in the 1911 series, I have several of these from Dan Wesson, and they are great guns.

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Re: What model do I have? Start here
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2008, 03:22:04 AM »
I thought I would add a note about the barrel configuration and how that effects your model designation. Because of the Dan Wesson interchangeable barrel system, when the guns were sold, the barrel size and type was usually part of the model designation. Obviously this would change if the user changed the barrel, but it is still an interesting part of the Dan Wesson equation.
If you see any mistakes or have anything to add, please chime in.

1). Standard barrels having the solid rib without the heavy underlug were usually designated by the barrel length alone.

For example, as per the information posted above, a 357 magnum with adjustable sights is a model 15.

The same gun with the standard 8” barrel becomes a model 15-8

2). Barrels with the vent rib get a V prefix.

So our model 15 with an 8” vent rib barrel becomes a model 15-V8

3). The Heavy Underlug adds an H to the designation

So a Heavy vent rib 8” equipped gun becomes a model 15-VH8

4). The slots cut on some of the silhouette shrouds add an S to the end.

The most common was the 357 Supermag model 40 (or 740 stainless)

So a model 740 stainless with the 8” vent rib and slotted shroud is a model 740-V8S

Yes, there were even some heavy underlug slotted guns (don't know why)

So then a 740 vent rib, heavy underlug, slotted shroud gun is a model 740-VH8S

In Summary:

V = Vent Rib

H = Heavy Underlug

2,4,6,8,10,12,15 = barrel length (12" and 15" were only available for 357 magnum model 15 and 715)

S = Slotted Shroud

Also note the barrel length is the actual length of the barrel, from the forcing cone to the muzzle crown. The shroud length is obviously less because of the area the barrel screws through the frame.

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Re: What model do I have? Start here
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2008, 03:41:13 AM »
And in the revolver series no one posted the 460 Supermag or the .32 SuperMag.
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Re: What model do I have? Start here
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2008, 04:22:47 AM »
And in the revolver series no one posted the 460 Supermag or the .32 SuperMag.

Other than the pre-production model, I don't think the 460 Supermag was ever produced. Was the 32Supermag ever a production item? I didn't even know they had considered it.

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Re: What model do I have? Start here
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2008, 04:24:00 AM »
Do we have pictures of each model?

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Re: What model do I have? Start here
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2008, 04:59:14 AM »
Do we have pictures of each model?
Sounds like a good winter project. I'll see what I can contribute. :)

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Re: What model do I have? Start here
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2008, 02:23:12 PM »
The Pistol Pac and Hunters Pac.

From very early on, the Dan Wesson Revolver has been offered as a Pistol Pac. Over the years, the contents of the Pistol Pac changed some, but most contained the following Items.

1.) Dan Wesson Revolver with an 8" barrel assembly.

2.) Extra barrel assemblies in 2 1/2", 4" , and 6" length.

3.) An extra grip

4.) 4 additional front sight blades (2 white or red, and 2 yellow)

5.) A belt buckle

6.) A Dan Wesson logo patch

7.) A wrench kit

8.) A Carrying Case

Pistol Pacs were designated by a "P" then the model number of the revolver frame, then the barrel shroud type (blank) for standard, "V" for vent, "VH" for Vent Heavy

Example:

P-715 =   Stainless 357 mag. standard barrel shroud

P-41-V  = Blued 41 magnum, Vent rib barrel shroud

P-745-VH  = stainless 45 long colt, Vent Heavy Pistol Pac

The Hunter Pac was offered in all Magnum calibers from 22 magnum up through 445 Supermag (even the 375 was a catalog item)

The Hunter Pac contained the following items:

1). Dan Wesson Revolver with an 8" Vent Heavy Shroud.

2). A Vent 8" Shroud (only, no extra barrel), equipped with Burris scope mounts and a Burris scope in either 11/2x-4x variable or 2x fixed.

3). Barrel changing tool

4). Dan Wesson logo patch

5). Carrying case

Hunters Pacs were identified by an "HP" before the model number and then a "V" for variable scope or a "2" for fixed power scope.

Example:

HP22M-V  =  22magnum blue with 1 1/2x - 4x scope

HP744-2  = 44 magnum stainless with 2x fixed scope.

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Re: What model do I have? Start here
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2008, 10:09:16 AM »
Hey guys,

This is some great information.  If no one objects I'm going to compile all of this information into a single document and post it on the new Dan Wesson Forum. www.danwessonforum.com

Thanks, Jody
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