Author Topic: Anyone hear how the 30-30's in 2010 proposal ended up? (Read 1706 times)

teddy12b · « **on:** September 22, 2009, 06:20:26 AM »

I had heard and read rumors about Indiana debating on allowing the use of 30-30's for deer firearms season in 2010. It's not legal in 2009, but it may be next year.

Anyone hear anything on this one way or the other?

Dinny · « **Reply #1 on:** September 22, 2009, 06:39:21 AM »

This is news to me. I'm very interested, please share more....

Thanks, Dinny

Lon371 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 22, 2009, 08:42:40 AM »

Please share. Where did you read or hear it from. Been wanting another excuse to buy.

Lonny

teddy12b · « **Reply #3 on:** September 22, 2009, 10:21:09 AM »

I had read about it at "indiana gun owners". Its another forum. I have heard talk about it in the gunshops. Basically, it's a bunch of rumors like the pistol cartridge rifles were a couple years ago. They were thinking of making the 30-30 legal to hunt with because of the history of the cartridge.

Dinny · « **Reply #4 on:** September 22, 2009, 10:29:24 AM »

When you say "History" I start to think of the primitive weapons laws in some Southern states. I wonder if there will be talk of using other "Historical" cartridges like 45-70??

Thanks, Dinny

teddy12b · « **Reply #5 on:** September 22, 2009, 10:32:49 AM »

I wish they would allow the 45/70. I've sold both my 30-30 & 45/70 and would love to replace them. As much as I'd like to get a marlin 336C in 30-30, I'd also be torn between that and a H&R Buffalo Classic in 45/70. I've got the reloading supplies for both calibers, but no guns for them. I'd love for the 45/70 be legal for Indiana, but I don't think it'll happen any time soon. I'm not holding my breath for the 30-30 either. I just figure another fun season with the 44mag.

LaOtto222 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 22, 2009, 11:30:37 AM »

The 30-30 would be great, but I do not think it will happen - BUT I didn't think it would happen for pistol cases in a rifle either. I do not understand how you can have a 243 or a 308 in a pistol, but it is not OK for a rifle

Dinny · « **Reply #7 on:** September 22, 2009, 11:34:02 AM »

Quote from: LaOtto222 on September 22, 2009, 11:30:37 AM

I do not understand how you can have a 243 or a 308 in a pistol, but it is not OK for a rifle

I too have had the same thoughts, but I'm not looking a gift-horse in the mouth. We are very fortunate to have what we have.

Thanks, Dinny

LaOtto222 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 22, 2009, 11:40:12 AM »

Agreed

My 357 Max or one of my 44 mags will do.

schoolmaster · « **Reply #9 on:** September 22, 2009, 05:30:16 PM »

When the "short rifles" were first proposed, I went to the public meetings and discussed the idea with the DNR representatives. They said that only a few people would use a rifle calibered handgun and probably just the people that shot metallic silouette. At first they had to be 35 cal or bigger and now they are down to 243. They felt the target shooters would be more careful and safer than Joe Average hunter. You can hunt squirrels with a 30-06 if you want to also various other species of game and varmits. No caliber restrictions. I say let the hunters use any of the old cartridges that were originally loaded with black powder and let them shoot the old lever actions and single shots that our forefathers used. It would be neat to hunt with a Sharps replica in 45-70.

Dinny · « **Reply #10 on:** September 22, 2009, 05:48:32 PM »

Quote from: schoolmaster on September 22, 2009, 05:30:16 PM

I say let the hunters use any of the old cartridges that were originally loaded with black powder and let them shoot the old lever actions and single shots that our forefathers used. It would be neat to hunt with a Sharps replica in 45-70.

Schoolmaster,
We just met and I already like the way you think.

I'm with you on this one 100% of the way.

Thanks,Dinny

tatonka · « **Reply #11 on:** October 04, 2009, 04:57:04 AM »

Schoolmaster, Tell us more about the .243 minimum requirement for hunting deer with a rifle in Indiana. This is the first I have heard of it. It might open up some wildcat possibilities for my encore or contender. Thanks.

Dinny · « **Reply #12 on:** October 04, 2009, 06:51:38 AM »

Quote from: tatonka on October 04, 2009, 04:57:04 AM

Schoolmaster, Tell us more about the .243 minimum requirement for hunting deer with a rifle in Indiana. This is the first I have heard of it. It might open up some wildcat possibilities for my encore or contender. Thanks.

Tatonka,
Welocome aboard OUR forum!
I'm pretty sure that the .243" minimum requirement applies only to pistols firing rifle cartridges. In rifles, we have specific limitations in reference to the case length and bullet diameter. This does not allow us to use standard rifle cartridges like the 243 Win, 30-06 Spr or .270 Win.

Thanks, Dinny

schoolmaster · « **Reply #13 on:** October 04, 2009, 02:12:53 PM »

Sorry the way I wrote about the 243 minumim caliber could be mistaken to mean used in rifles. This is not the case. The 243 minimum is for pistols only such as the TC Encore and Savage Striker type of pistols. The pistol caliber rifles must be .357 minimum.

Old Syko · « **Reply #14 on:** October 04, 2009, 02:47:13 PM »

schoolmaster hit the link below for the In DNR regs.

http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw-Deer_Hunting_Equipment.pdf

Dinny · « **Reply #15 on:** November 08, 2009, 11:27:59 AM »

I sure hope they pass the 30-30 into law. I just bought a 30-30 Handi rifle and would love to put it to use sometime soon in IN.

Dinny

Lon371 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 08, 2009, 12:46:36 PM »

Dinny
Could always use it on some big red squirrels

bigvarmnt · « **Reply #17 on:** November 08, 2009, 01:35:05 PM »

Dinny, I almost jumped on that 30-30. Glad you got it. Now you will have something to do when you get home.

I hope to hear about it. I doubt you will have time so if you drop it by I'll check it out for you. How long will you be back?

Dinny · « **Reply #18 on:** November 08, 2009, 02:31:57 PM »

Quote from: Lon371 on November 08, 2009, 12:46:36 PM

Dinny
Could always use it on some big red squirrels

Lonny,
According to the state laws, you're exactly right. Actually I think it will make a great rifle for hunting more than just big squirrels and deer.

BTW, can I borrow $215?

Well actually I have the $$, I may need a new place to live after the wife finds out.

I think I timed this purchase perfectly, it's gonna be pretty tough for her to stay mad at me for long, I've been away for a long time.

Dinny 6 more days......

Dinny · « **Reply #19 on:** November 08, 2009, 02:36:28 PM »

Quote from: bigvarmnt on November 08, 2009, 01:35:05 PM

Dinny, I almost jumped on that 30-30. Glad you got it. Now you will have something to do when you get home. I hope to hear about it. I doubt you will have time so if you drop it by I'll check it out for you. How long will you be back?

Let's see, what will keep me the busiest when I return? New baby, wife, work or reloading for my new 35 Whelen, 30-06, 223, 22 Hornet, 500 S&W, or 30-30??

I should be home for 12-18 months before the next deployment.

Momma says the baby and her have priority. I ,not just to keep the peace, would agree. My baby Gwen sure is cute.

I already enjoy being a dad and it's only gonna get better.

Dinny 6 more day......

teddy12b · « **Reply #20 on:** November 08, 2009, 03:40:39 PM »

Nothing better than having a baby girl. Mine is almost a year now and I can't believe it. She's walking, talking, and getting into stuff.