Corelokt, The Deadly Mushroom, pics

[Cheesehead]

This 8mm 185 grain Corelokt bullet was recovered from the ham of an adult doe whitetail. It hit the deer near head on in the chest, traveled down the rib cage, breaking many ribs and into the ham, stopping there. It was fired from a 8mm Mauser, Model 98K with a near max charge of RL-15. This is almost end to end penetration.

Cheese

[JASmith]

Very nice pictures!

They show us another reason for using the tried and true where they work!

[LaOtto222]

Yep the Corelokt is a quality bullet for not a premium price. Nice pictures of the bullet BTW.

[Cheesehead]

Thanks guys, the bullet weighed in at 149 grains from the original weight of 185 grains, that is 80% weight retention.

Cheese

[Graybeard]

Had it been a 200 grain you'd like not be able to show us the photos as it would have exited. It's quite amazing what an old school cup and core bullet of proper weight for caliber can do in a non magnum rifle.

I'd call that excellent performance and penetration and wasn't really even a "heavy for caliber" bullet at that.

[wncchester]

Those photos of a CoreLokt are a clear demostration that the current (magazine/TV led) craze for expensive premium bullets for deer is silly.  The old bullets work quite well, always have, always will.  Deer, elk, black bear even moose really ain't all that hard to kill.

[BBF]

  The old bullets work quite well, always have, always will. 

Agreed!......When used for the size game and velocities they were designed for.

[shakey]

Cheesehead,

I have shot quite a few deer using a .308 with 180gr Core-lokts and the only one recovered looked just like yours after about the same wound path. Only difference was that it was visible under the skin when it stopped.

No more than I shoot at game, I could afford to shoot pretty much anything I want but, next month I'll be sitting in my stand with my same ol' .308 loaded up with the same ol' Core-lokts.  Don't change something that works.

[Swampman]

Core-Lokts are pretty much all I use.

[mcwoodduck]

I really like them
Use them in
180gr RNSP in 308 for deer / black bear  No deer has gone far after catching one.  Have never found one in a deer.
225 gr PSP in 338 Win Mag for Elk
270gr in 375H&H. RNSP for squirels.
Cheese gongrats to your Nephew. 
I still have the slug from my first deer when I was his age.  180 grain Winchester power point.

[Brithunter]

Your preaching to the Choir here 





That's a 7mm Hornady 139 Grain BTSP revcovered from a Whitetail in Missouri. My first ever Whitetail I might add. Remington bullets as reloading componants are not common here.

[BBF]

expansion is one side of the coin, the other is retained weight.

[Brithunter]

To true, I cannot recall the retained weight off hand so I looked it up:-

The bullet expanded to approx 0.600" and retained 94 grains of weight for 67% of it's original weight.  Now that's good performance in my book. Oh the shot on the Buck was at 40-50 yards so impact velocity was still quite high. Bullet was recovered from under the skin of the left shoulder and entered just behind the last rib of the right as the Buck was facing away. Turns out this shot was not needed as my first shot had taken out the top of the heart and both lungs however the Buck started down the trail towards the creek and I didn't fancy trying to haul him back up a 6ft sheer bank. He dropped after 3 more steps  :-



 You can of course make up your own mind  .

[mcwoodduck]

Good looking deer.
Just wondering.
When you say the bullet opened up to .6, sounds good but what did it start out as? (270, 308, 243, 257?)
and how heavy?

[Brithunter]

Good looking deer.
Just wondering.
When you say the bullet opened up to .6, sounds good but what did it start out as? (270, 308, 243, 257?)
and how heavy?

That's a 7mm Hornady 139 Grain BTSP revcovered from a Whitetail in Missouri. My first ever Whitetail I might add. Remington bullets as reloading componants are not common here. Just copied and pasted it from the post with the expanded bullet photos  The velocity of my handload using Vectan TU5000 powder is 2800fps.

[mcwoodduck]

Wait.
1 You are using a Hornady product and not Remington.
2 The bullet you picked is not your standard low tech bullet but a boat tailed round.
3 they do sell the remington projectiles for reloading.
Also the logo on the box of the Rem says "the deadliest Mushroom in the woods"
I believe them.  they have worked everytime for me.  If I need a better bullet for game I tend to get a wider bullet rather than go high tech with the bullet, unless I have to like using a no lead option.  The pig in my picture took two 150 grain 308 all Copper X bullets (all I could find)  I know the 180 Round Nose Soft point remington bullet would only have needed one.

[Brithunter]

OH deary me:-

You are using a Hornady product and not Remington.

Correct but it's a normal cup'n'core bullet, same type of construction 

The bullet you picked is not your standard low tech bullet but a boat tailed round

Well it's not high tech either, the load originally developed and which I planned on using had the Hornady 139 Spire Point but when I went to buy some more to load up for my trip I could not get any only these, same weight but BTSP. They didn't shoot as well so I had to re-develop the load to use this bullet.

they do sell the remington projectiles for reloading.

Yes they do but you come to the UK and try finding them  I have some Remington 175 Grain 7mm (0.284") bullets but I brought them back with me for the US. Other than that I have a few 100 grain .277" bullets that I picked up about a dozen years ago. Still have some because they don't shoot very accurately with any load I have tried.

Also the logo on the box of the Rem says "the deadliest Mushroom in the woods"
I believe them.  They have worked everytime for me.  If I need a better bullet for game I tend to get a wider bullet rather than go high tech with the bullet, unless I have to like using a no lead option.  The pig in my picture took two 150 grain 308 all Copper X bullets (all I could find)  I know the 180 Round Nose Soft point remington bullet would only have needed one.

I know what Remington advertises as I managed to get some Remington .243 ammunition to try in a rifle. It was not a successful experiment as the rifle shot patterns with them not groups. Federal Classic shot much better. The other problem with Remington factory ammo is the price. I enquired about some 100 Grain 6mm Remington ammunition for a rifle I have and was told it was special order as it was not popular and the price quoted was £132 per 100 rds  at the current (lowly) exchange rate of 1.6 USD to 1:00 GBP that works out at $211:20 USD per 100 rounds. I can buy Winchester at about 1/4 of the price and it groups to around 1" or there-abouts at 75 metres (82 yards).

The situation with Remington products,ammunition and componants is getting worse here in the UK I hear as the company which are the agents and importers has got a new "lady" boss who according to my local gunshop :-

Absolutely useless!

Seems it's almost impossible to get anything orderd with that company now. Ony time will tell if things improve but if it's as bad as they say the company will go under leaving Remington to find another agent and importer here and the options are not good on that score.

[Swampman]

I suspect the demand is so low there is no money to be made at it.  With almost no hunting and firearms for the most part illegal to own and all.

[Cheesehead]

One interesting thing about this 8mm bullet is the fact that it is only available as a component bullet and not sold as loaded ammunition. Seems unusual to me.
I buy these in 500 count bulk packs for cheap. I have 3 Mauser rifles to feed.

Cheese

[Brithunter]

I suspect the demand is so low there is no money to be made at it.  With almost no hunting and firearms for the most part illegal to own and all.

Oh dear swampy ole chap please do a little research before making stupid untruthful staements 

In fact deer hunting, we call it stalking  , is growing in popularity every year and unlike your tiny short seasons and restricted harvest, here in the UK you can hunt deer all year round barring Christmas day. We have six huntable species and seasons are split between sexes, and at present two species have no close season at all. If you have the permission or the land you can take as many deer as you wish. Just like in the US the Deer population is growing greatly and is actually out of balance. This is caused by climate, very mild winters but also by the availbilty of food provided by winter crops so deer survival rates are greater now than before.

Oh there is now in England & Wales not even a game licence required to take deer and the meat is even salable providing it prepared to certain standards. The reason Remington is not so popular here is that we have other makes available. My local shop carries Sierra, Hornady, Speer, Nosler, Sako, Norma, S&B and Privi Partisen that I know of. Oh and another thing owning and using a "silencer" actually a sound Moderator is no problem here as even our stupid law makers realise that owning a sound moderator does not make one an assasin or terrorist and in fact it only takes a variation on your firearms licence just like obtaining another rifle  I will getting a sound modrator suitable for use on a .243 next year once I gather the funds together to buy one. That's after I pay for my next three rifles 

[mjbgalt]

nice to see some places in the world accept good ideas.

how are they on gun control though?

[Brithunter]

Worse than some better than others  firearms are licensed as is ammunition but in fact despite what the Police say they are actually no limits on the amount owned in law. It's the darned Police which make these rules up as they go along  Sure there are stupid rules like the one on expanding ammo. The Police wanted ALL expanding ammunition banned so only THE POLICE  could have it  and they're about the last ones to trust with it here in the UK! so we have this stupid law now as because the Polcie wanted it and the government was in crisis over the Dunblane shooting, which it seems the Police were responsible for most of the victims anyway  poorly trained coppers with full auto 9mm's and a Gym full of kids is not a good mix it seems  despite the Police cover up and the official report it also seems that Hamilton did not shoot himself but was sero so no load development  no practice with your hunting amo, only FMJ's executed by the Police who then changed his clothing to cover up the fact. What they forgot was that the children who survived saw it all! There is a book called Dunblane uncovered written by a survinig teacher that the Police and Governmet tried to stop being published but failed to do so. s

Of course they forgot about the 1968 Deer Act which specifies that expanding ammunition MUST be used for deer  so we have a exception for those who shoot deer but you really should not shoot expanding ammo at the range only to zero no practice with them only FMJ or match bullets allowed for that. Then there is the transport of expanding bullets. Cannot be done by normal post or carrier and can only be done by armoured car like large amounts of cash etc  so no ordering by mail order and even a box of bullets, not cartridges just bullets, must be kept locked in a secure cabinet :LOL pathetic really. Even though it's been pointed out the stupidity of all this it won't change as that would mean showing the Police for the daft idiots they really are. Loaded ammo must be secured and it's always been that way since licensing came into effect so 50+ years ago. Meanwhile armed crime rates soar as criminals and illegals don't bother with the law so it's no hinderence to them anyway  .

[BBF]

Brithunter:
If Obama and his cohorts get their way, Americans may yet see a real Gun Control situation.

This thing with your FMJ vs softpoints is one better example of bovine thinking.

[Brithunter]

Oh it gets better. It was pointed out that the bullets used in lever action rifles with tubular magazines use flap tipped bullets for safety and seeing as how nearly all are soft point the government "decided" that such bullets loaded into such a rifle are designed with a flat exposed lead tip for safety and NOT to expand  yet if you load the same bullet into a rifle with a box magazine is magically becomes an expanding bullet and requires the exception 

They also missed the fact that if you fire any bullet at a hard enough target it WILL expand.

[mrussel]

I suspect the demand is so low there is no money to be made at it.  With almost no hunting and firearms for the most part illegal to own and all.

Oh dear swampy ole chap please do a little research before making stupid untruthful staements 

In fact deer hunting, we call it stalking  , is growing in popularity every year and unlike your tiny short seasons and restricted harvest, here in the UK you can hunt deer all year round barring Christmas day. We have six huntable species and seasons are split between sexes, and at present two species have no close season at all. If you have the permission or the land you can take as many deer as you wish. Just like in the US the Deer population is growing greatly and is actually out of balance. This is caused by climate, very mild winters but also by the availbilty of food provided by winter crops so deer survival rates are greater now than before.

Oh there is now in England & Wales not even a game licence required to take deer and the meat is even salable providing it prepared to certain standards. The reason Remington is not so popular here is that we have other makes available. My local shop carries Sierra, Hornady, Speer, Nosler, Sako, Norma, S&B and Privi Partisen that I know of. Oh and another thing owning and using a "silencer" actually a sound Moderator is no problem here as even our stupid law makers realise that owning a sound moderator does not make one an assasin or terrorist and in fact it only takes a variation on your firearms licence just like obtaining another rifle  I will getting a sound modrator suitable for use on a .243 next year once I gather the funds together to buy one. That's after I pay for my next three rifles 

 I heard the King would throw you in irons for taking his deer.or maybe I was watching Robin Hood......

[Brithunter]

That's what you get for listening to the media. Here is my last trip out after deer which was April 15th :-


Roe Buck, mature 6 pointer shot at approx 140 yards using a 59 vintage BSA Majestic Featherweight in .270 Winchester. Am just awaiting my licence to be varied as I have sold one rifle and and swapping some things round usage wise then after picking up my next two rifles will sort out my next deer stalking trip. it it works out I might be able to swing a days stalking when down south picking up the next BSA majestic .270 which is also of about 59 vintage  this one will have the foresight removed and the barrel threaded to take the sound moderator.

Scotland has some trouble in the Red Deer Population right now, we had an unusually severe winter and the mortality rate was high, so the deer stalking there will depend upon the calf count in August and September. Only then will the impact on the herds as a whole be able to be judged and harvest levels set. This is done by the land owners and deer managers of the various estates.

Roe deer are doing very well and expanding their territories as are Muntjac deer. I recently heard that a couple down the road , less than a mile as the crow flies, have two regularly visiting their gardens. Will try to find out who has the crop land behind them and see if I can gain some shooting access. if they  are seeing two there are more in the area 

[Win 1917]

Meanwhile armed crime rates soar as criminals and illegals don't bother with the law so it's no hinderence to them anyway 

Somehow governments and the brain dead masses don't realize that laws only apply to those of who are law abiding citizens. We who do the right thing get punished and our freedom taken away and the criminals keep going about their business the way they always have.

[yooper77]

Cheesehead,

Awesome pics.

I use Remington Corelokt's but mostly Hornady Interlock's with the same results.

I have also old Herters, Speer and Sierra cup and core bullets which all offer the same results.

yooper77

[AtlLaw]

Beautiful deer BH!

[streak]

Great pictures BH!
Is your pointer ever used for tracking wounded deer??
That .270 is a great round.