Author Topic: 260 Remington Revisited! (Read 1243 times)

quickdtoo · « **on:** November 30, 2009, 12:20:07 PM »

As some may remember I was originally going with the 260 Rem when I had my 6.5x55 custom Ultra done by Wayne York, now I'm back there again only on a Superlight barrel to make a nice light carbine for deer, emphasis on LIGHT, as in less than 7lbs scoped in the new syn style stocks!! I discussed it by email with Fred M and Wayne, and talked to Wayne this morning and it's a go, I have a couple 20" 243 Superlights, a slick barrel barrel and a sighted barrel, the slick barrel will go to Wayne tomorrow for reboring to 6.5mm, I would have stayed with the 6.5x55, but that would require a .223 donor barrel since the Swede won't clean up the 243 chamber, but the 260 chamber is the same as the 243, so no changes needed there. He said it would be about 3 months which is plenty soon, I should have money saved up for it by then!!

Tim

canon6 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 30, 2009, 12:28:29 PM »

Tim I HATE YOU

great plan my friend. Doug

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #2 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:09:31 PM »

Can't wait to hear how it comes out Tim. Doug, how's your project doing? DP

togojeff · « **Reply #3 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:14:14 PM »

That should be a sweet little gun Tim.
Will be looking forward to the range report
when she gets home.

Big Blue · « **Reply #4 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:23:43 PM »

Tim,
I'm glad to see your going for it. The .260 has a lot going for, as do any 6.5s, but the .260 also benefits from cheaper brass. All my .260 brass is stamped .243 Win.

Mine really likes 120gr. Barnes TSX bullets over 45.5gr. of H414.
Don

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:31:23 PM »

Nice! Sounds like something I'd be very interested in myself at some point.

It's all about LIGHT when it comes to hunting!

canon6 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:42:22 PM »

DP, I just heard from Larry, he has the barrel threaded and turned down.He should get -er-done this week.

I swear the man is a magician.. Doug

petemi · « **Reply #7 on:** December 01, 2009, 01:13:54 AM »

Tim, So what's after the .260

Pete

FLNT4EVR · « **Reply #8 on:** December 01, 2009, 01:47:59 AM »

Tim, it's about time.Everyone needs a .260. If it ever gets chambered in NEF I'll buy one in a NY minute. It has become my absolute favorite deer caliber.

Dinny · « **Reply #9 on:** December 01, 2009, 02:39:02 AM »

Tim,
Coincindently, I spoke to Wayne via email just about 3 weeks ago on the same subject. My cash flow just isn't the same these post-baby days, but I get by. I will have to wait a while before I can send him a barrel for the job. That man's business must stay plenty busy for there to be a 3 month turnaround. Good for him, I think that's a testament to the quality of his work.

Inquiring minds will be watching for that range report. We're gonna mark our calendars.

Dinny

FW Conch · « **Reply #10 on:** December 01, 2009, 03:43:19 AM »

As usual, way to go Tim ! I just received a 260, 26", varmit barrel for a Stevens 200 but I havent installed it yet ! Can't wait to hear how yours shoots !

Jim

MSP Ret · « **Reply #11 on:** December 01, 2009, 04:15:03 AM »

so Tim, set me straight here, did you get a smooth .223 superlight barrel and get your Swede made up by Wayne or not? The .260 sounds great as well but I tought you were looking for a superlight .223 barrel, I have one but it has sights, not the smooth you wanted and I wanted to keep it myself as well. In your post here is sounds like Wayne has at one time made one for you, what's up?....<><....

MSP Ret · « **Reply #12 on:** December 01, 2009, 04:17:00 AM »

Oops, disregard, I now see Wayne made you up an "Ultra" Swede and now you were looking for an "Ultralight" Swede. With the exception of my 7x57 Handi I usually like cartridges with American designations, however I must say I have heard a lot about the 6.5 Swedes, those that like them, LOVE them....<><....

quickdtoo · « **Reply #13 on:** December 01, 2009, 05:13:41 AM »

About 2½yrs ago I was contemplating a 260 Remington and switched horses to the 6.5x55 due to the larger case capacity since it was going to be done with a 28" Shilen blank, it became a 6.5x55 Ultra with a 26.375" barrel about 18 months later when Wayne got to it since it was his first stubbing, but he'd put it in a drawer and forgot about it, he told me up front it would be a back door project, so I never bugged him about it.

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,117152.msg1098380030.html#msg1098380030

carbineman · « **Reply #14 on:** December 01, 2009, 08:20:09 AM »

Tim wrote<emphasis on LIGHT, as in less than 7lbs scoped in the new syn style stocks!!> End of quoted text

Sounds like a great project as I really like the lightweight part of it. My one Topper weighs smidge less than 6 lbs. with a 1-4 Leupy on it. Really like that rifle.

Fred M · « **Reply #15 on:** December 01, 2009, 09:16:47 AM »

Yes I am thinking of another 6.5 light weight and short 22" barrel. The Handi platform would do the job very well.
I am thinking of the 6.5 Mistic a necked down 308 with a 40deg
shoulder. You could call it 260AI.

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek075.html

The reason for the AI would give a bit flexebility in powder charges to accomodate the flexable receiver. I would use a 130 bullet of some sort and a 8.5" twist.

I find myself hunting more and more on my own with my Jeep. The heavier and longer barelled guns are simply an impediment in the car, to get in and out fast. I have a 243 Ruger #1 barrel that could be rebored but don't have an action to go with it.

Also my 257Roberts Handi serves the above problems very well, no complaints. So the 6.5 Mistic is just an nother gun to play with.

Well at present the above is a long shot.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #16 on:** December 01, 2009, 10:45:00 AM »

I expect it to weigh right at 6½lbs with a Leupold VX1 3-9x40 mounted in low or medium Rifleman rings.

The 260 Improved has merit and sounds inviting, but the die cost doesn't at $143 for a set, even just a FL sizer die is $93 and since the chamber is already a 243, it would end up being a bit long to fire form without creating a false should to headspace on, with limited range opportunities, that's not inviting either and Wayne would have to rent the reamer which adds even more to the cost. So I'll stick with the standard 260 Rem.

Tim

petemi · « **Reply #17 on:** December 01, 2009, 12:14:05 PM »

O.K. dumb a$$ed question number 87,246.197. Did Atkins make any money at this or was he just a wealthy enthusiast? I never studied up on him, and really don't know. I think I might have a letch for the .30-30 AI in a Handi since I already have a levergun.

Pete

moorepower · « **Reply #18 on:** December 01, 2009, 01:31:47 PM »

P.O. Ackley was a gunsmith that thought there was always a better mouse trap. I don't think he made money as the JDJ line in the TC's , but I am sure he did OK smithing.

Fred M · « **Reply #19 on:** December 01, 2009, 01:46:22 PM »

P.O. Ackley did write two books which are still available. He also made barrels and tought gunsmithing. I think he did well in his
endevor.

Tim I have 243AI reamer you ream the 243 first with the AI reamer, then do the neck and throat with the 260 reamer not very difficult to do. I let you have the reamer for the job.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #20 on:** December 01, 2009, 02:07:07 PM »

Thanks Fred, I appreciate the offer, but that doesn't help much for the additional required range work for the "improved-improved" chamber I'd end up with and die costs are more than I really want to expend, even if I was starting with a 223 barrel, I'd not want to do an improved version. Special order die costs are the big reason why I didn't do a 6.5x55 Ackley in the Ultra.

Tim

jeepmann1948 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 01, 2009, 02:57:13 PM »

I have been using a 25-06 Lee collet sizing die to resize my 25-06 AI , Works better than my RCBS full length die. The Lee is large enough for the AI case to slide right in and neck size it just right.Yes, by neck sizing the cases will only fit the gun they were fired in but I keep my cases separated to the gun they were fired in any way.
Much cheaper than custom or special run dies too!

Happy Trails

quickdtoo · « **Reply #22 on:** December 01, 2009, 04:45:32 PM »

I tried neck sizing with my 338-06 and 280 Improved Ultras, it doesn't work with warm to hot loads, just too much case growth, it may work fine in a bolt gun, but don't plan on getting away with it in a break barrel with near max loads.

Tim

varmintman · « **Reply #23 on:** December 02, 2009, 08:45:38 AM »

Tim I have a ? for you, I have a h&r ultra varmint in 223 and was wondering if I could put a 26" barrel on it in a 6.5 caliber? I have a ruger #1b in 6mm rem. and love it and I think this would be a nice addition to go along with it. Thanks for your excellent knowledge and will be waiting for your reply. Dan

quickdtoo · « **Reply #24 on:** December 02, 2009, 09:00:10 AM »

The only way to get there with a 26" barrel is a stubbed barrel, see the FAQs if you're not familiar with stubbing. A 26" 25-06 H&R barrel can't be rebored to 6.5mm for a 6.5-06, not enough difference in bore size, .257" to .264", I think the general rule is 2 calibers difference for a rebore, that's why the .243" to .264" will work.

Tim

moorepower · « **Reply #25 on:** December 03, 2009, 01:01:03 PM »

That would be an interesting question for Wayne. He said going from .223 to a 6mm/.223 would work great on my superlight. He must need around .020 to work with.