.327Mag Blackhawk-NEW

[Hopalong7]

     I see Ruger just introduced a new 327 Blackhawk.  Stainless, 5.5" barrel, 8 shot.....well, at least they got the barrel right.  I would guess the 8 shot cylinder probably rules out a 32-20 companion cylinder.  Oh well...I still got my Buckeye.  Walt

[BlkHawk73]

  I'm hoping more variants will follow. Gotta be at least 6 1/2" for me to take a jump, prefer blued too but I'd Bisley-ize either.

[Blackhawker]

I agree, 6 1/2 or longer for me!

Walt, you feel like parting with that Buckeye?   

Chris

[StevenK11]

Anyone know if they put a Reverse Indexing Pawl on this new model (similar to the New Vaquero, 44 spl, 357 anniversary, etc...)?

It's been showing up on newer models lately.

On a side-note:  I'm assuming they moved the warning rollmark to the bottom of the barrel, which has been the trend with all their recent models too.   Just last month, I picked up a Ruger Mark III 22/45 in bull-barrel and the roll-mark was moved to the bottom on that model (yea!).

[Hopalong7]

     Sorry Blackhawker,  The Buckeye is already willed to my oldest(and...he knows it and...has shot it). Walt
I got to dissagree on the barrel length.....time was when I wanted a 7 1/2" on all my sixguns, but as seniority has coverged I've got to liking those shorter tubes a lot.

[Hopalong7]

      I re-checked the website and the features section had no mention of reverse indexing(One would love to assume that since they had a good thing......well...maybe).  It would definately come in handy with a cylinder with eight holes in it. And as always, of course, the picture is of the right side(wonder why they do that), so you can't see the warning. Walt

[Blackhawker]

I've never fired a 32-20 from one of those Buckeyes but I can only imagine that they're LOUD!...maybe even as loud as a 30 carbine Blackhawk.    I'd imagine, judging by the performance of the .327 Mag, that this round fired from a revolver will be nearly, if not AS loud as the 30 carbine Blackhawk.

Walt, I know what you're saying about the shorter barrels.  I have a Vaquaro in 5 7/8" (or something under 6") and it balances so nicely.  Twirls well too!    
Being that I like to shoot longer distances with my pistols, I like to get every inch of barrel I can but there is definitely something to be said about the feel and balance with the shorter barrels.

[Hopalong7]

     Loud...yes sir!! I don't know that the 32-20 is as bad as the .30 but it's close.  By the time I aquired the 32-20, I was so deaf from shooting the 30 that I couldn't tell the difference anyway.  It's not so much loud as it is a high pitch crack!!! ouch!!!  I mean they(either one, and a hot loaded 32H&R isn't far behind)make my ears actually hurt!  Pay attention here young'un's!!!
    Now, the barrel thing...handling and carrying...yes, but to me it's more about the sights.  For years it was just sight radius...the longer, the better.  I know I could shoot a 7 1/2" Blackhawk better than I could a 4 5/8" simply because the sight radius was longer.  Now, here comes that converging seniority again...My eyes, or in my case, eye(since my right eye will no longer even begin to focus on anything inside of 5 feet)can focus on the front sight and still see the rear sight better the closer they are together...hence the shorter barrel. Walt

[Blackhawker]

I've fired one round through my 30 carbine Blackhawk without ear protection a LONG time ago and that was it!  Yes, it's a very high and full mid-range pitch (CRACK!!!) that gets ya!  It's not a BOOM like a big bore or something.  Whatever it is, I recommend NO ONE to ever fire one of these narrow but long cased calibers from a revolver without ear protection.  They do hurt!  (side note: you should ALWAYS use ear protection anyway)

Walt, I agree about the long sight radii.  I've been having problems with my rifles in a similar manner.  I'm sure it won't be long before it gets worse and I have to work with shorter barrels on the pistols.  Hopefully not though!

Chris

[Steve P]

.32-20 and 30 carbine are similar in noise out of my BHs, although the 30 carbine has the longer barrel.

I wonder who came up with an 8 round cylinder.  Must be that designer Stew Pitt.  I have heard of some Stew Pitt stuff coming out of Ruger, but an 8 shot cylinder in a Blackhawk takes the cake.  Bill Ruger is probably rolling around in his grave.   6 shot cylinder would give you the advantage of making several Wildcat cylinders.....

Steve

[Badnews Bob]

I am prolly gonna get one of these critters or two, and a rebarrel on one to about 7.5 to 9.5 will be done as soon as I can. Shorter barrels are just fine performance wise but I like long barrels, Like my 10 inch .357 maximum BH or my 7.5 .44 SBH.

[poncaguy]

I ordered one, if my dealer can get one..............

[Pinkerton]

Ruger finally figured out the blackhawk can be more than a 6 shot, when will they realize it can be less and make us a 480 5 shoooter?

[Hopalong7]

Ruger finally figured out the blackhawk can be more than a 6 shot, when will they realize it can be less and make us a 480 5 shoooter?
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AMEN!!!

[Steve P]

Ruger finally figured out the blackhawk can be more than a 6 shot, when will they realize it can be less and make us a 480 5 shoooter?

More than 6 shots in a Blackhawk is sacrilege!!

Steve

[Noreaster]

I carry a single six 22 mag when bow hunting, (grouse/rabbit/fox/coyote.) The 327 mag looks perfect for my use. The 5.5 inch barrel would be a nice holster carry. I haven't seen any ammo for sale, don't know what the prices are. I believe you can shoot 32 mag also.

[Empty Quiver]

I find this round and gun combo intrigueing. On one hand it seems a perfect replacement for a 22mag single six. Except that I'm not sure what I would shoot with this that the 22mag won't handle. Then I think well, it would be a much better follow up shot for a down elk or deer. Except as a bowhunter in Mn. it is illegal to carry a handgun, and a .357 is even better suited to large animals.

Putting an 8 round cylinder in it raised the weight to the same as a .357 so it isn't even a light gun with a decent punch. Here is the biggest issue, I love to be a contrary cuss and what is more contrary than an eight shot Blackhawk in .327?

So, it it not bad for everything or not worth a crap for anything?

[Rustyinfla]

  FWIW at the SHOT show they also introduced a 7 shot GP-100 in .327.

  I'm thinking the .327 is the new generation's .32-20. I guess case life would be better in the .327 if someone would just come out with it in a carbine all would be well with the world.

[Flash]

  FWIW at the SHOT show they also introduced a 7 shot GP-100 in .327.

  I'm thinking the .327 is the new generation's .32-20. I guess case life would be better in the .327 if someone would just come out with it in a carbine all would be well with the world.

To that, I'd say to give Ruger time. There might be many variants in this caliber before the year is out. I remember when the 32 H&R was introduced, there were rifles and handguns being introduced like crazy. A lever or bolt gun will be a good companion to the Blackhawk. I wasn't too fond of this gun when it was introduced but I figured I'd try one. I like the blackhawk more than the GP.

[Flash]

Well, I picked up my Blackhawk yesterday and the fit and finish is beautiful. I don't kow who is making the grips for Ruger but they're a rich rosewood laminate with a nice satin finish thats smooth as a baby's behind. They fit the grip frame like they were molded instead of carved. The Ruger logo is stamped on the rear sight, right over the hinge pin and the sight seems to set deeper into the frame than other adjustable sight models. Anyway, I like it and can't wait to shoot it. By the way, it's number 130 .
I almost forgot, there's no reverse indexing pawl but the warning is on the bottom and almost tucked under the ejector rod housing. Ruger did a good job with my gun, that's for sure. I can always modify the pawl if I want, no big deal.

[DennisB]

I'm jealous!  Post a pic or two, huh?

[Flash]

I'm jealous!  Post a pic or two, huh?

Oh, alright.

[Old Fart]

I'm jealous!  Post a pic or two, huh?

Oh, alright.

I can see one of those in my future.....
I really like the little 32 h&r mag, this gun in 327 mag would be sweet.

[rio grande]

Ruger.  Why didn't they make it in 6 shot Single-six platform, like the discontinued .32 mag.?

[Blackhawker]

Ruger.  Why didn't they make it in 6 shot Single-six platform, like the discontinued .32 mag.?

Eight shot is pretty cool....either way is good to me.  I just wonder why they don't make it with an optional barrel length of  7 1/2" or even 9 1/2 like the old 32 mag.  The load data thus far displayed on this cartridge verses varying barrel lengths seems to show that this round can really move with a few extra inches of barrel.  I wonder how much is just right and how much would be too much?  I'm sure 7 1/2" is far from too much and would surely add at least 200 fps to the numbers.  

As much as I'd like to get one of these things now, I think I'm gonna wait to see what Ruger does with it as far as optional barrel lengths etc.

[sixshot]

  Going to a 7 1/2" barrel would make up into a nice handgun but I doubt very much if it would add 200 fps with 2" of additional barrel. I'm picking up my gun friday & I'll shoot the heck out of it with a 100 gr cast SWC. First we'll do a trigger job, add a belt mountain base pin & narrow that front sight to .100".

Dick

[Blackhawker]

  Going to a 7 1/2" barrel would make up into a nice handgun but I doubt very much if it would add 200 fps with 2" of additional barrel. I'm picking up my gun friday & I'll shoot the heck out of it with a 100 gr cast SWC. First we'll do a trigger job, add a belt mountain base pin & narrow that front sight to .100".

Dick

According to this article:

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-327s.htm

the Blackhawk with a 5.5 inch barrel is getting 100 to 150 fps more over the GP-100 with a 4.2 inch barrel (a little over an inch of barrel), so I would expect about the same or maybe a little more from another 2 inches of barrel if stepping up to a 7.5".

[Flash]

  Going to a 7 1/2" barrel would make up into a nice handgun but I doubt very much if it would add 200 fps with 2" of additional barrel. I'm picking up my gun friday & I'll shoot the heck out of it with a 100 gr cast SWC. First we'll do a trigger job, add a belt mountain base pin & narrow that front sight to .100".

Dick

According to this article:

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-327s.htm

the Blackhawk with a 5.5 inch barrel is getting 100 to 150 fps more over the GP-100 with a 4.2 inch barrel (a little over an inch of barrel), so I would expect about the same or maybe a little more from another 2 inches of barrel if stepping up to a 7.5".

There is no guarantee that the results would be linear because if it were, the speed of light could be reached with a long enough barrel.The powder charge has much to do with velocity and if the powder is burnt up in 6", a 7 1/2" barrel would slow the bullet down, not speed it up.

[Blackhawker]

  Going to a 7 1/2" barrel would make up into a nice handgun but I doubt very much if it would add 200 fps with 2" of additional barrel. I'm picking up my gun friday & I'll shoot the heck out of it with a 100 gr cast SWC. First we'll do a trigger job, add a belt mountain base pin & narrow that front sight to .100".

Dick

According to this article:

http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-327s.htm

the Blackhawk with a 5.5 inch barrel is getting 100 to 150 fps more over the GP-100 with a 4.2 inch barrel (a little over an inch of barrel), so I would expect about the same or maybe a little more from another 2 inches of barrel if stepping up to a 7.5".

There is no guarantee that the results would be linear because if it were, the speed of light could be reached with a long enough barrel.The powder charge has much to do with velocity and if the powder is burnt up in 6", a 7 1/2" barrel would slow the bullet down, not speed it up.

Yes, I understand that there are no guarantees on increases but since there is 18" test rifle data for the caliber showing velocities in the 1,700's and 1,800's, my guess would be there would be an increase of some sort and definitely not a decrease.  As you mentioned about powders, this is where the reloader's fun would begin. 

[DennisB]

I like that!  The extra flutes do sorta jump out there, don't they?