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PRIMARIES
« on: March 29, 2010, 03:16:58 PM »
all  i hear  is how  liberal the republican  party has  gotten

good  folks are running  off to support  people with  NO  chance  of winning
[don't tell  me  about  all  the  ''what ifs''.....next one will be a democrat or republican]

the  democrats  are  hopeless  forget  them

if  all the  good  folks  got involved  and  defeated  the LIBERAL republicans in the primaries

we  would  have  more than the lessor of 2 evils to choose  form

chase a third  party  and some one  else will decide  who the lessor of 2 evils  is

all  i hear  is negative  stuff  about  palin  helping  mccain
who  has  done anything  positive  to help  mccains  opposition in the primaries

what  are you  plans  for the primaries  in  your local  election

i  hope your  plan  is  not to  continue  to  whine  after  the general elections
ABOUT  YOUR LACK  OF CHOICE   and  how we  need a new party
like  i have  seen  these  last 2 years

i must  admit........i have done nothing  either
so  don't get mad at me for calling you out
this week  is  busy
next  week i will go to  my republican party head quarters
get informed about the candidates
if i get double  talk.....i guess i need to vote  anti-incumbent
but  i will  be involved in  the primaries
something  i could never do when i was registered libertarian
mccain  and  obamer and the democrats drove me to the republican party



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DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: PRIMARIES
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2010, 04:18:45 PM »
I'm voting for anyone who is not a r or d win loose or draw I will not pick the lesser or business as usual and if enough join me we will change washington.
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Re: PRIMARIES
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2010, 04:43:45 PM »
I think if you want to vote for the Republican, then by all means do so. It's a free country, at least for a little while longer.
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Re: PRIMARIES
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2010, 04:58:54 PM »
We the people really need to figure out a way to change things in the right direction.Im not sure the candidates we will have to choose from are the answer. Wipe the plate clean and lets try a different dish for supper ??????? If we dont get our heads out of our butts ,this is only the beginning, been heading this direction for years whether demo or rep.Wish my one simple vote would really help, if it is really even counted.
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Re: PRIMARIES
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2010, 05:22:37 PM »
Wanna hear sumpn scary! a poll today of a thousand registered voters picked obama to win in 2012. he beat Romney, Palin. Jeb bush, and some others! Cant find it now but I heard it on the news tonight.

Better get off your behinds and do something!
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2010, 06:19:43 PM »
We the people really need to figure out a way to change things in the right direction.Im not sure the candidates we will have to choose from are the answer. Wipe the plate clean and lets try a different dish for supper ??????? If we dont get our heads out of our butts ,this is only the beginning, been heading this direction for years whether demo or rep.Wish my one simple vote would really help, if it is really even counted.


your  missing  the  point

YOU  GET  2 VOTES

one in the primaries......where you vote the best man
one  in the  general......where  you pick the lessor of 2 evils
or  one  in the general...for the best man.......if enough  good  people get involved  in the primaries


I'm voting for anyone who is not a r or d win loose or draw I will not pick the lesser or business as usual and if enough join me we will change washington.

there  is one  of those  ''IFS''  that will not happen

who  ARE  you voting for in the primaries  i might  ask ???

no answer  and you prove my  point about  what  happened to the republican party
APATHY
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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Re: PRIMARIES
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 02:31:23 AM »
I'm voting for anyone who is not a r or d win loose or draw I will not pick the lesser or business as usual and if enough join me we will change washington.

Sadly in following this course and considering nothing else you are merely assuring the greater evil wins. That's the automatic default setting when good folks take this attitude.

Let's get back to the topic here PRIMARIES or in some states caucuses. These are where each party decides who is gonna be on their ballot in the fall when the election takes place. By the rules of primaries you can only participate in the selection of candidates for one party, ya gotta choose which in order to play in the primaries. In some states you must register your party affilation and can only vote in that party's primary if they have one. Third, fourth and other fringe elements often don't have primaries.

Here in Alabama we don't have to register but on primary day must declare which party's primary we will vote in on that day. Next primary we can vote in the other if we wish. This really gives us two opportunities to affect the outcome of the fall elections as we can vote against the stronger more unwelcome candidate in the dumocraps primary or we can vote for the candidate we think is best for us in the repubs primary. We can't do both.

If everyone would get involved at the primary level and I mean everybody that has conservative leanings at least as I personally would prefer as few as possible of the liberals to be involved at all stages of the election cycle. Sadly it seems to work just opposite of that and the liberals get involved and the true conservatives stay home all pissed off at the repubs and wait to vote some nonelectiable fringe candidate in the fall.

What we conservatives NEED TO DO if we want to have a prayer of changing things back toward what we see as the right way is to change our thought processes and our actions. We need to be highly involved in the primary process and also in supporting any good candidate or candidates that might be out there with campaign contributions and by giving of our time to help them get elected.

If you do these things effectively and in masse then there should be a really good candidate available to vote for in the primary and it is in the various state primaries that the decision is made who will be on the ballot come fall election time.

Now this is not to say we should not also be working to establish a strong and viable third party as I do believe this is desperately needed in America. We need to bust hell out of the two party system and have at least three viable parties and I'm not so sure that having four wouldn't be better still. But to be effective in establishing these parties you must do the work at local level and state level. To try to begin at national level before a sound foundation is established locally and at state level in at least the majority of states with the electoral college votes to elect a President is just plain foolish. Tossing your vote to them in a national election when they have not become established at state level and have numerous of their party holding offices locally and at state level is truly wasting your vote in my opinion.

The reason we've come to call what we do voting the lesser of two evils is because we've failed at getting good candidates in the running via primaries and have failed to get a viable third party established locally and at state level all across the nation. If you honestly want to turn things around at the polls this is the process that must be followed. Otherwise it's gonna be business as usual.

The democrap party is gone, it is not salvageable and needs to be written off and what would be best for this nation would be if it could be phased out of existence to be replaced by some new party. The repubs can still be saved IF but ONLY IF folks get involved at the primaries in masse and make sure folks like McCain are not on the ballot in the fall. You must use the primaries to find and vote in viable conservative candidates who will then be on the fall ticket to oppose the democraps and any fringe spoiler parties as might exist.

If while working within the repub party at primary level you also work with a truly conservative third and as yet fringe party to make them stronger via contributions of time and money then you can make a real difference and turn the corner back to conservative government.

At the local city and county level anyone can be elected and often they don't even have to announce a party affiliation at all but can run without party. Ya JUST ABSOLUTELY GOTTA get good folks elected locally as this is the base from which state office holders come. If ya get good folks both at local and state level then they become the base for national elections. It's not a quick or painless process but it is an important process and if you are not a part of it then my friend you are a part of the problem.

So what ya gonna do really? Ya gonna bitch and moan about lack of choices in the two active parties and cry about lessor of two evils or are you gonna get politically active and work with other like minded conservatives to get good conservative candidates on the primary ballot and hopefully elected to be on the election ballot in the fall? Or are ya just gonna sit it out and come fall whimper about the poor choices available and then either vote lesser of two evils or toss your vote away on some fringe candidate/party who you've done nothing to support locally to make them viable in the real world of politics?

The liberals have gone down this road and have done a very effective job and that's why they are in charge now. They took it to heart and have their folks spread from local city and county to state offices in about all states and they are highly effective at getting them elected at national level.


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Re: PRIMARIES
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 08:54:28 AM »
your much better with  words  than i am

plus  people  put  more stock  in what you say

i think this one of your longest  post


THANKS

i  hope  many will  read it twice
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2010, 08:56:41 AM »
this is  a  post  from  SKARKE
on another thread

On another post, GB asked me for whom I recommend we gather support.  I've thought about it since, because there are a whole lot of machine politicians falling in to the RINO croud.

That said, I've decided that I am indeed seeking support for the Republican ticket, with this caveat: support begins NOW!!!!  If you don't want RINOs in the party as your only choice for the "lesser of two evils", and prefer hard conservatives and traditionalists, then get thee off of thine duff and work the primaries.  If there has ever been a better time to bring the Republican Party back home, and defeat IN THE PRIMARIES the RINOs, I've not seen it in my lifetime.

Quit moaning.  If you can't find you local Republican Party, send me a PM, I'll find it for you.  The only thing that I ask is that we educate ourselves, and don't stand silent when your socialist friends, family, neighbors, school teachers, etc are spreading their lies.
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2010, 09:22:03 AM »
Yep and it was a good un there and here!
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2010, 09:42:39 AM »
One thing we had happen here in Alaska a few years ago.  We had a Democratic Governor named Tony Knowles.  We the people of Alaska hated him as much as you guys hate Obama.  We were looking at replacing him, and we had some really good candidates running in the primary.  A man named Lindower threw his hat into the ring for Governor who we knew little about.  Anyway a group in Anchorage calling itself Democrats for Lindower popped up and he was overwhelming voted in to run on the Republican ticket.  The Incumbent Tony Knowles received very few votes.  It was like 3/4 of the residents of the state voted for Lindower in the primary.  Suddenly the Republicans realized what had happened, most Democrates in the state voted for Lindower, the actual weakest guy running.  The Republicans had spread their vote out for three people running, but Lindower got the most votes by the time the Democrates for Lindower voted.  then two days before the election all knids of corruption charges came to light about Lindower.  One of which was that he was not an Alaska resident.

Lindower had been a plant by the Democrats to see that Knowles stayed in power.  And it worked.  The Alaskan Republican party went to the closed primary so that won't happen again. 

I personally feel the Democrats and the News Media had a big hand in getting McCain put on the ballet in 2008.  He was the weakest Republican candidate running in my opinion.  I met many people down in Tennessee, staunch Yellow Dog Democrats, who said they were voting for McCain in the primaries.  Saw the same thing in Georgia, Texas, and Florida.  Democrats voting for a Republican in the primaries.

With that going on, and the way the Republican party is divided, how can they win anything?  I see it as One big party the Democrats, and three little parties, the Moderates, the Conservatives, and the Ultra Conservatives.

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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2010, 11:26:38 AM »
If they voted for McCain in the Republican Primary in Texas they were registered as Republicans.
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2010, 03:53:39 PM »
In WA state, in the primaries, you can only vote party affiliation. Whatever you are registered is what party you can vote for. I don't like it because I don't want anyone telling me how to vote. I think it is unconscienable to tell someone what party member they can vote for. If you are registered Libertarian or independant and no candidate for that party runs you can't vote. Steve

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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2010, 04:03:29 PM »
It's the same way in Texas. In the primaries if your registered as a Republican you can't vote in the Democratic primary, and vice versa. They stamp your card now if you bring it. My wife is an election judge, and Dems have tried to vote in Republican primaries only to be told they have to register as a Republican.
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2010, 04:44:17 PM »
 Here You can vote in the democrat primary and still vote for the republican(or visa versa) in the general election. There are no party police. Southeast Texas been a Dem stronghold forever, (changing lately as several are changing to republican that are office holders) So in the past, if ya wanted to vote, in a primary, you had to vote in the democratic primary(mostly for local elections) but then you vote for whomever you choose in the general election and you DO NOT have to register democrat to vote you just have to tell the election folk what party primary you want to vote in . They are held simultaneously. But of course you can not vote in both.
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2010, 05:11:10 PM »
In WA state, in the primaries, you can only vote party affiliation. Whatever you are registered is what party you can vote for. I don't like it because I don't want anyone telling me how to vote. I think it is unconscienable to tell someone what party member they can vote for. If you are registered Libertarian or independant and no candidate for that party runs you can't vote. Steve


dah.......thats  what primaries are  for

florida is a closed primary state

many of my libertarian friends temporarily registered  republican 
to vote for ron paul  in the primaries

NO ONE TELLS YOU HOW TO VOTE IN THE GENERAL ELECTION
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2010, 03:49:01 AM »
Here You can vote in the democrat primary and still vote for the republican(or visa versa) in the general election. There are no party police. Southeast Texas been a Dem stronghold forever, (changing lately as several are changing to republican that are office holders) So in the past, if ya wanted to vote, in a primary, you had to vote in the democratic primary(mostly for local elections) but then you vote for whomever you choose in the general election and you DO NOT have to register democrat to vote you just have to tell the election folk what party primary you want to vote in . They are held simultaneously. But of course you can not vote in both.

Exactly, but in my area, there wasn't any noticeable jumping to bate the primary, everyone pretty much stuck to their parties.
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2010, 07:16:10 AM »
Well you can imagine how hard it was for me to ask for a Democrat ballot during the primaries, couple o times i threw up in my mouth!  :o
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2010, 12:40:18 PM »
Well you can imagine how hard it was for me to ask for a Democrat ballot during the primaries, couple o times i threw up in my mouth!  :o


your  tougher than  i am
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
OBAMACARE....the biggest tax hike in the  history of mankind
free choice and equality  can't co-exist
AFTER THE LIBYAN COVER-UP... remind any  democrat voters ''they sat and  watched them die''...they  told help to ''stand down''

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