Author Topic: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico  (Read 4123 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Cheesehead

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3282
  • Gender: Male
Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« on: May 21, 2010, 01:23:55 PM »
Polaris, makers of Victory Motorcycles and atv's decided to close the plant in Osceola Wisconsin and move to Mexico.

I officially hate them.


http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_15130718?source=rss

Cheese
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance.

Offline Cheesehead

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3282
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2010, 01:35:31 PM »
It gets even worse.........................................................

Osceola (WQOW) - A Minnesota company deals a major blow to a western Wisconsin village.  The largest employer in that village is leaving.

Polaris Industries, out of Medina, Minnesota, is moving its plant in Osecola to Mexico.  Several hundred people work at that plant in Osceola.  They manufacture the Victory Motorcycle, ATVs and snowmobiles.  The plant has been there for almost 20 years.

The village president says all operations will be moved to Mexico in the next couple of years.  She says it was a surprise and feels the higher cost of shipping was, most likely, a major factor in the decision.  She says they'll being to have meetings soon to determine what to do once Polaris leaves Osceola.

Last month, the company reported a record first quarter net income of almost $20 million.  Sales were up 16% in the first quarter from the same time a year ago.
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance.

Offline Cheesehead

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3282
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2010, 01:36:40 PM »
Now I really hate em.

Cheese >:(
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance.

Offline P.A. Myers

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (65)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1344
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2010, 01:59:12 PM »
Hate is such a perjoritive. I wish Polaris stock to become worth $0
“Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty -
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense”
 Winston Churchill

Offline mauser98us

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (40)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1565
  • Gender: Male
  • 10 mm junkie and Whelan wacko
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2010, 02:15:44 PM »
Nice meebe Harley will join them as well. We are officially in trouble. We are getting to the point where we manufacture nothing

Offline Cheesehead

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3282
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2010, 02:18:06 PM »
We could move to Mexico and get a job, if their immigration laws weren't so tough.

Cheese
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance.

Offline Cheesehead

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3282
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2010, 02:21:36 PM »
Pejoratives[1] are words or grammatical forms which denote a negative effect; that is, they express the contempt or distaste of the speaker
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance.

Offline skarke

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1190
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2010, 02:44:55 PM »
Hola-  Howdy do
Buenos Dias- Good day to you
Uno Cervezas por favor- bring me a cold one, if you don't mind

Just thought that since my State is being retaken by Mexico, I might as well learn the lingo.

I'm just pretty much disgusted by the whole situation.
Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it on to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States when men were free.  Ronaldus Maximus

Offline Swampman

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (44)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16518
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2010, 02:46:48 PM »
I hated them before they moved.  They don't make a single attractive motorcycle.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983
919th Special Operations Wing  1983-1985 1993-1994

"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~

Offline GRIMJIM

  • Moderator
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3002
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2010, 03:43:38 PM »
record profits but they're moving anyway to make more money and pay their employees less.

Let the union bashing begin.
GBO SENIOR MEMBER "IF THAT BALL COMES IN MY YARD I'M KEEPING IT!"

NRA LIFE MEMBER

UNION STEWARD CARPENTERS LOCAL 1027

IF GOD DIDN'T WANT US TO EAT ANIMALS, WHY DID HE MAKE THEM OUT OF MEAT?

Offline mauser98us

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (40)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1565
  • Gender: Male
  • 10 mm junkie and Whelan wacko
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2010, 04:00:54 PM »
key phrases for all those inclined for the mexican culture:
Si hablis espanol? speak spanish?
Gratis    Free
refresco   Soda
dinero   money
Clinico Gratis    free medical care
papas   potatos
cerveza   beer
agua   water
plata   plate
comida  food or groceries
pescado   fish
You can get by with mostof these phrases. Pm me if you want the swear words ;)

Offline Default_Required

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 219
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2010, 09:08:48 PM »
Well I guess that Vegas 8 ball I was eyeballing is off my list.  Pretty freakin pathetic Victory !!

Offline Bigeasy

  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1986
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2010, 01:39:48 AM »
That record profit number might be misleading.  There were probably undisclosed things going on that forced a move if the company was going to stay in business.  I'm not sure about their other products, but bikes are a hugely personal thing, and being American made was a big selling point with their bikes, as they appeal to the same crowd as HD.  I'll bet the Victory line of bikes don't last long once they start coming across the border stamped "Made in Mexico"...  The real blame lies with forces (Government, and probably union) that have forced so many American companies out of business, or off shore just to stay alive.

Larry
Personal opinion is a good thing, and everyone is entitled to one.  The hard part is separating informed opinion from someone who is just blowing hot air....

Offline Swampman

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (44)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16518
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2010, 02:27:58 AM »
I'm all for companies making a profit but moving off off shore will cost them 90% of their sales.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983
919th Special Operations Wing  1983-1985 1993-1994

"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~

Offline Empty Quiver

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2847
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2010, 04:16:32 PM »
A bunch of Polaris dealers are gonna be suffering. I can in no fashion see any worse time to make such an announcement. They do understand that being made in the USA is a very big reason to shop a Polaris don't they? Anyone pro USA enouigh to buy Victory is likely going to be anti-messican.

Maybe they can change the name to Defector for the messican market and how about Migrant for the US market.
**Concealed Carry...Because when seconds count help is only minutes away**

Offline Dee

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23870
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2010, 06:57:45 PM »
key phrases for all those inclined for the mexican culture:
Si hablis espanol? speak spanish?
Gratis    Free
refresco   Soda
dinero   money
Clinico Gratis    free medical care
papas   potatos
cerveza   beer
agua   water
plata   plate
comida  food or groceries
pescado   fish
You can get by with mostof these phrases. Pm me if you want the swear words ;)

You left one out. Mon os ariba Chico, or in English. Hands up boy!
You may all go to hell, I will go to Texas. Davy Crockett

Offline Dee

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23870
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2010, 06:59:33 PM »
I like motorcycles, but their not something I have to have. With all the taxing states, and the feds are doing on businesses, I don't see how any of them stay in business in the U.S.
You may all go to hell, I will go to Texas. Davy Crockett

Offline mauser98us

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (40)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1565
  • Gender: Male
  • 10 mm junkie and Whelan wacko
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2010, 07:31:38 PM »
I stand corrected! Thanks

Offline P.A. Myers

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (65)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1344
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2010, 12:25:55 AM »
Are Indians made in India?
“Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never - in nothing, great or small, large or petty -
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense”
 Winston Churchill

Offline Swampman

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (44)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 16518
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2010, 12:40:10 AM »
No but they were made in England at one point.  Enfields are made in India.
"Brother, you say there is but one way to worship and serve the Great Spirit. If there is but one religion, why do you white people differ so much about it? Why not all agreed, as you can all read the Book?" Sogoyewapha, "Red Jacket" - Senaca

1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983
919th Special Operations Wing  1983-1985 1993-1994

"Manus haec inimica tyrannis / Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem" ~Algernon Sidney~

Offline nodlenor

  • Trade Count: (4)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 455
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2010, 04:25:57 AM »
Move all the jobs to other countries and the immigration problem is solved.
Self government without self discipline will not work; Paul Harvey

Offline billy_56081

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (5)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8575
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2010, 04:51:40 AM »
But BO say that they are adding hundreds of thousands of jobs each month. I can't figure out why the unemployment rate keeps going up too.
99% of all Lawyers give the other 1% a bad name. What I find hilarious about this is they are such an arrogant bunch, that they all think they are in the 1%.

Offline mauser98us

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (40)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1565
  • Gender: Male
  • 10 mm junkie and Whelan wacko
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2010, 06:35:40 AM »
That reason is the temporary help for the census. As soon as it is over the unemployment rate will go up. This is unless obama brings out the smoke and mirrors.

Offline Default_Required

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 219
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2010, 08:26:05 AM »
Update on the Victory / Mexico thing , Seems Victory came out and quickly announced that some manufacturing elements of polaris will be moved to Mehico but that Victory Bikes will continue to be made in America. They were quite addiment about that point.

Offline Cheesehead

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3282
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2010, 09:48:03 AM »
They will make ATV's and snowmobiles in Mexico?
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance.

Offline hillbill

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3285
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2010, 11:56:26 AM »
some guys here have alluded to the reason for companies leaveing the us but not came right out and said it. corporate income tax, simple as that.they can post record profits, but when unc sam gits done with them, they got less left than they did last year.and also as some members have mentioned , unions, or at least labor costs.until we drop corporate income taxes below the countries these corporations are moving too, we will continue to lose them and their jobs and the income tax the employees wou;ld pay and the sales tax from the items they would buy with the wages they would earn and the benefits from these gainfully employed investing in the stock market, buying vehicles, traveling etc. why cant the gov see that? im so mad now i could spit nails.

Offline Hairtrigger

  • Trade Count: (10)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2010
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2010, 12:33:02 PM »


Let the union bashing begin.


Why bash unions? We love to hear about working 2 hours a day but staying on the job and getting paid for 8.... lets see  for every 4 workers we need a foreman, for every 3 formen we need a supervisor..... I see no reason to not hire lazy union slobs
then there is this union trick

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/23/AR2007072302011_pf.html

Offline Spanky

  • Moderators
  • Trade Count: (96)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4627
  • Gender: Male
  • USMC Semper Fidelis
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2010, 03:44:46 PM »
Union's whine and cry to get their own way... if that don't work they go on strike... then they are too damn lazy to even walk their own picket line?
That's classic. ::)
Don't dare to say unions are the problem though... you might upset one of the "brothers" :-X :'(



Spanky

Offline Cheesehead

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (6)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3282
  • Gender: Male
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2010, 06:00:08 PM »
Polaris is non-union so........
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance.

Offline Empty Quiver

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2847
Re: Victory Motorcycles moving to Mexico
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2010, 06:50:06 PM »
Happy to hear the Victory's will still be domestic. But I'll be honest and say this whole mexican thing leaves a bad feeling.
**Concealed Carry...Because when seconds count help is only minutes away**