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If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« on: June 18, 2010, 04:38:03 PM »
If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose? I hope to be able to buy a 308 Remington 700 before deer season but if I can't I will be forced to use the 22-250 that I have. It is a Remington 700 SPS Varmint. It has a 1 in 14" twist barrel that is 26" long. The 14 twist barrel limits me because they say it will only stablize a 55 grain bullet. I reload and Have some 60 grain V-Max bullets and am going to see if I can get them to stablize. If not it will be 55 grain bullets for sure. I would think I would have to keep shots under 200 yards. I am thinking a neck shot or head shot would be best as long as the deer was standing still. I really don't know how a such a lite bullet would perform with a boiler room shot. I think there is to much chance of hitting a rib and just wounding a deer. I would think a boiler room shot may be ok 100 yards or less though. I think I would need a bullet that would have great  penetration and retain much of it's weight while expanding well. Sounds like a lot to ask for such a tiny bullet. I know many people hunt deer with the 223 so the 22-250 should do the job better except many 223's will shoot heavier bullets. The thing the 22-250 also has going for it is it will shoot several hundred feet per second faster than the 223. So tell what bullet would be best? I am thinking a 55 grain Hornady Spire Point bullet might be best.
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Or a 60 grain Spire Point if I can get a 60 grain bullet to stablize. Thanks in advance and take care Dale
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2010, 05:00:43 PM »
Barnes tsx, trophy bonded bear claw, nosler partiton.  The 45gr and 53gr barnes get the nod in my book.   I'm planning on finding a good load for my 22-250 using the 53gr Barnes TSX.  SHould do well on anything from fox to whitetails.
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choos
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2010, 05:09:24 PM »
I would use Sierra GameKing 55 gr Spitzer Boat Tails.
Its supposed to have a thicker jacket than varmint bullets to penetrate deeper.
I get ~3700 fps with 40-ish gr of H-380 and good cold barrel accuracy off the bench.
Biggameinfo.com ballistic calculator will tell you how far its good for.

I have heard Texans are shooting W/T's with 22-250's out to 200 yds.
Need to hear from some Texans on this.
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2010, 05:26:12 PM »
Dale...Back in the 60s when I was 15 or so, I bought a Remington 700 22-250 and used it for several years to kill deer...I killed at least 50 or so...Many of these were does eating our peanuts and soybeans during the summer months...

But...The first one was a beautiful 10 point buck, killed after hunting him for a week after first spotting him...He was about 35 yards away when I shot him and I held and hit him in the lungs, holding right behind the right shoulder...He turned and ran about 75 yards and piled up...

I used 2 different bullets back then, both groundhog bullets...A 55gr Remington hollow point and a 55gr Remington pointed soft point...

I ended up selling that gun and buying a Remington 1100 shotgun...

Fast forward to about 8 years ago...My little brother (about 50 now) remembers me killing deer with that 22-250 and some of the shots I used to make with it when showing off...He acquired one in trade and had me sight it in for his (then) 12 year old daughter...I picked up 2 boxes of Federal Premium 60gr Nosler Partitions and sighted it in for her...

She is now 20 and has killed 14 deer with those bullets...I've cleaned 5 of those deer, that bullet gives full penetration and the exit hole is about the size of a quarter...My niece perfers a high shoulder shot and all but 2 of the deer have dropped at the shot...The 2 that ran went less than 50 yards...

I wouldn't buy a 22-250 as my primary deer rifle (I use a .243) but if that's what I had, that's what I'd use...Many here in North Carolina kill their deer each year with either the .223 or the 22-250...
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2010, 05:53:23 PM »
All good information so far and I do like to hear the hunting stories like yours. Did you or have you ever made a head shot or neck shot on a deer? I would not even try it on a moving deer but if he was just standing there I think a shot to the base of the skull would do the trick in a hury. The rifle of mine shoots well enough to make such a shot so accuracy is not an issue. Thanks and take care Dale
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2010, 07:10:27 PM »
There is no need to take a head shot Dale... a good solid shot in the boiler room is a better shot to take. I've used 2 different 22 calibers to take deer... a 223 and 22hornet... both were taken with boiler room shots... to tell you the truth the one I shot with the hornet was one of the quickest kills I've ever seen... straight down in a pile and not a step... the chest cavity looked like a grenade went off in the lungs. the one i shot with the 223 was through the lungs and he went about 20 yds. and piled up... the 22 hornet load was a 46gr. hollowpoint and the 223 was a 55gr. soft point Remington. Both shots were within 100 yds and on standing deer broadside. I wouldn't take any raking shots... the bullets just don't have the mass or momentum to penetrate muscle and bone... Don't worry about a rib stopping a good bullet from a 22-250... there is alot more thump there than most people think. DO NOT use varmint bullets... use good controlled expansion bullets and you will be good to go... these guys have given you some good choices on which bullets to use... I will see if I have some brass from my 22-250... if I do I will send it to you to help get you started reloading and save you a little money. I'll check around and let you know if I have any.



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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2010, 07:20:03 PM »
I've killed a total of 4 deer with a 22-250.  Two with a 45gr barnes x  and two with a 50gr ballistic-tip.  Forget the BT's unless you head or neck shoot.  The 45gr barnes-x is a surprisingly mean little bullet when driven at around 3900fps.  I shot a large doe with one at less than 20yds and the x bullet broke BOTH of its shoulders and left a nice exit wound.  If the 22-250 was my only rifle I wouldn't have a problem shooting any size deer with one at a reasonable distance with a Barnes x bullet, it will surprise you with its effectiveness.    Dave  
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2010, 03:11:38 AM »
Yes, I've taken head shots...With a .22 rimfire as a kid while squirrel hunting...I guess I've killed a dozen that way, all dropped at the shot, no different than killing hogs with my dad's .22 pistol...

I have killed one with a head shot with my .243, it was one morning, during doe season...I was up in a white oak overlooking a cornfield...I could see the deer's head while it was pulling corn off the stalks, range was about 100 yards...The bullet hit in the back of the head and that was that...

I take lower neck shots when a deer is quartering to me, the bullet enters the base of the neck and exits the opposite shoulder...The other time I take them is when they are looking dead at me...I hold just below the white neck patch...Both shots drop them, no tracking needed...
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2010, 04:47:06 AM »
 ;) Dale, you have lots of information here on the .22-250...most of it is very good...over the years I too have used it on deer...It kills well, the only problem is a small exit hole...One thing to keep in mind, I do not know where you hunt in Pa., but many states mentioned have long seasons and the deer are not highly pressured when they are shot...In Pa. it is different..I know because I have hunted there, and at times still hunt there...there is a difference in the animals when they are all ready excited and there for a bit more difficult to put down on the spot...Last fall I shot a nice buck with the 25-06 at 300 plus...I think had he been quiet and feeding the kill would have been very quick...he had been pushed from the other valley and was seeking a new cover He went down but got to pushing his way down the mt...it took another shot to achor him...this is what I mean when I speak of whitetails being pressured...the .22-250 will take whitetails...I don't like head shots because to me, a whitetail is too beautiful to shoot in the head...Just me, but I have used Serria 55 grain HPBT on quite a bit of deer size game...it has never let me down..most of the shots were less than 150 yards...and I did not take shoulder shots unless going for a high spine shot, and I never shot a huge buck with this rifle...One year after I retired, I hunted everyday in three states from Sept. one until the first of the year...I used the .22-250 on deer quite a bit that fall and selected the 60 grain Nosler Part. It did a fine job, but did not produce the instant kills a faster opening bullet produced...With care it will do just fine...
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2010, 04:49:15 AM »
 ;) One thing Dale, all of my current big .22's  are 1-14 twist and shoot the 60 grain Nosler Part. just fine...
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2010, 02:38:37 PM »
Quote from: Spanky on June 18, 2010, 07:10:27 PM
There is no need to take a head shot Dale... a good solid shot in the boiler room is a better shot to take. I've used 2 different 22 calibers to take deer... a 223 and 22hornet... both were taken with boiler room shots... to tell you the truth the one I shot with the hornet was one of the quickest kills I've ever seen... straight down in a pile and not a step... the chest cavity looked like a grenade went off in the lungs. the one i shot with the 223 was through the lungs and he went about 20 yds. and piled up... the 22 hornet load was a 46gr. hollowpoint and the 223 was a 55gr. soft point Remington. Both shots were within 100 yds and on standing deer broadside. I wouldn't take any raking shots... the bullets just don't have the mass or momentum to penetrate muscle and bone... Don't worry about a rib stopping a good bullet from a 22-250... there is alot more thump there than most people think. DO NOT use varmint bullets... use good controlled expansion bullets and you will be good to go... these guys have given you some good choices on which bullets to use... I will see if I have some brass from my 22-250... if I do I will send it to you to help get you started reloading and save you a little money. I'll check around and let you know if I have any.



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Spanky that would be very nice of you. I sure could use more brass thats for sure. As far as bullet choice goes the Barnes TSX really sound like a great bullet but they are expensive. I am thinking of buying a box pretty soon. Thanks again and take care Dale
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2010, 07:38:16 PM »
I killed one at about 220 yards with a 55gr V-max in the lungs, and another at about 80 yards with a Remington 55gr soft point. Stay away from neck shots, go for the lungs.
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2010, 09:07:22 PM »
Barne TSX, driven fast, in one of the the heavier weights that shot well.

A 50g is probably where I would start.  If it shot well I'd probably call it good.
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2010, 10:09:33 AM »
Please do not use the V-Max on deer.  Yes, some people say they work, but they are designed for varmints, not large game.  The .22-250 is plenty for deer (guys on ARFCom swear by the .223 for them, so the .22-250 ought to be plenty), but you must choose the right bullet for the job.

If you can get a 64 grain Winchester Power Point to stabilize in your gun, it would be a good candidate.  Barring that, the 60 grain Nosler Partition or one of the Barnes TSX bullets would be my choice if hunting deer with a .22 caliber rifle.
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2010, 10:36:49 AM »
Winchester power point lead tip 64 gr. money saved can go on 308 later.
Winchester recomends it for bear and deer . Why buy high dollar stuff ?
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2010, 11:23:03 AM »
 ;) Dale, after my last post, I thought of the 64 grain WW....One year I used it in a 22-250 Improved...and shot several large doe with it...high shoulder shots were my choice, the range was not long I suppose all less than one hundred yards, they worked ok...I shot lots of 63 grain Serria in my std.. 22-250's over a good charge of IMR 4350....they all had the std. 1-14 twist...and all shot the 63 grain just fine...ditto with the 64 grain.....
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2010, 01:14:17 PM »
SIXTY gr Nosler partitions and the 64 gr WW's are probably the best bets out there. Used the 64 WW's in a .220 Swift to cull some does years ago. Lung shots worked fine. Most dropped at the shot! 

 No comments on Barnes...had issues with junk (though expensive) .375" from Barnes that they wouldn't  stand behind...so NO input on their current products.

I would STRONGLY suggest a LUNG shot. I've seen too many deer/elk/antelope with shot off jaws, etc. Lungs are FAR LARGER and far easier to hit...save the Annie Oakley stuff for paper targets or varmints.

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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2010, 01:40:20 PM »
Well it looks like it is going to have to be a 55 grain bullet for sure. I loaded and shot some 60 V-Max yesterday just to see if I could get a 60 grain bullet to stablize. I loaded several with differnt weights of powder working up to the max load recomended. They almost all hit the target at 100 yards but to say they were grouping badly would be an understatment. The groups were like 6" to 8" and I am not kidding even a little. :o None of them keyholed but the accuracy is not there for sure. I don't know if trying a differwnt powder would help any or not. I was using IMR 4064. I like the Barnes bullet called the TSX and sounds like it would work well on deer at resonable distances. I would never use a V-Max bullet on a deer for sure they were not designed for such. That is why I am asking you guys what you have used with good results because I don't want to injure a deer and have it run off and die 2 days later. The 60 grain V-Max bullet I tested had a flat base and I wonder if a boat tail base would help getting them to group. Thanks and keep the responces comming. Dale
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2010, 02:11:22 PM »
Dale the 60gr Nosler and the 55 and 63 gr Sierra GameKings should stabilize just fine since they are shorter in length than the 60gr V-Max. 
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2010, 02:23:05 PM »
Quote from: Blackhawk44 on June 22, 2010, 02:11:22 PM
Dale the 60gr Nosler and the 55 and 63 gr Sierra GameKings should stabilize just fine since they are shorter in length than the 60gr V-Max. 

I second this!   The 60Gr V-Max is very long comp. to 60gr Nosler.   I have use the 55gr and 65gr Sierra Gamekings and the 60gr Nosler in a 1-9" twist 233 with great results.
The Hornady 55gr SP you listed is a Varmint bullets and They will Blow up.   I use them in a 1-12" 223 and hardly ever get an exit on big Groundhogs.  Ah Groundhogs would love ta see a few again!     
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2010, 02:42:46 PM »
Quote from: sk330lc on June 22, 2010, 02:23:05 PM
Quote from: Blackhawk44 on June 22, 2010, 02:11:22 PM
Dale the 60gr Nosler and the 55 and 63 gr Sierra GameKings should stabilize just fine since they are shorter in length than the 60gr V-Max. 

I second this!   The 60Gr V-Max is very long comp. to 60gr Nosler.   I have use the 55gr and 65gr Sierra Gamekings and the 60gr Nosler in a 1-9" twist 233 with great results.
The Hornady 55gr SP you listed is a Varment bullets and They will Blow up.   I use them in a 1-12" 223 and hardly ever get an exit on big Groundhogs.  Ah Groundhogs would love ta see a few again!     

Thanks I did not know the The Hornady SP was a varmint bullet. I will mark that one off my list. Thanks Dale
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2010, 09:35:00 AM »
As pointed out, the 60 grain V-Max is not the best indicator of whether or not your rifle will stabilize that bullet weight in general.  Looking at Hornady's 6th Edition right now, it states that the 60 grain V-Max will not stabilize in 1:14" or slower twist barrels.  They have no such warning for the other two 60 grain bullets they show (SP and HP). 
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2010, 05:06:38 AM »
Try the 55 grain trophy bonded bear claw, might be the ticket for your situation.
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #23 on: October 30, 2010, 01:59:16 PM »
I have a 1/14 twist Savage 110 chambered in 22-250.

I don't know about the bullets over 60gr (yes, I know that it's length, not weight, that counts), but I DO know that the 60gr Partition will stabilize in that rifle.

I have never used them on deer, but have no doubt that they would work just fine.
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #24 on: October 30, 2010, 03:06:04 PM »
Hey Dale, do you still have your 22-250? Thought you swapped it for a 308? What are you going to hunt deer with?
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2010, 03:09:07 PM »
Nosler Partition 60 grains
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2010, 03:36:21 PM »
I will be using my new to me Remington 700 VLS in the 308 caliber this year. I found a real good shooting load with 165 grain Sierra Spitzer boat tail bullets. Thanks Dale
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2010, 01:46:34 AM »
Quote from: DALESCARPENTRY on December 01, 2010, 03:36:21 PM
I will be using my new to me Remington 700 VLS in the 308 caliber this year. I found a real good shooting load with 165 grain Sierra Spitzer boat tail bullets. Thanks Dale

M700VLS, that's a great platform! I think you will enjoy that!
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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2010, 04:18:10 PM »
I had used the 223 rem and the SPEER 70gr bullet very successfully.  The 70 gr ahead of 25gr of H4895 gave me a 3000fps in my Browning Micromedallion (20" bbl) and unde 3/4" groups at 100 yards.  That load was good in my rifle but I would not try it in any other rifle without reducing at least 2 grains and work it up from there.

That load accounted for quite a few deers in Wisconsin.  My friends there gave me a hard time when comparing their 7mm Win Mag rounds against the 223 rem.  At the end of the day, I was always tagging my deer DRT, while some of my friends were often looking for blod trails.  Shot placement is the key.

I have also used the Sierra Game King 55 gr with excellent results.  Currently, I prefer to shoot deer with revolvers instead of rifles and it's been fun since.

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Re: If you had to hunt White Tail Deer with a 22-250 what bullet would you choose?
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2010, 03:58:36 AM »
Shot this one a few days ago with the 22-250 using factory Winchester 55gr. Ballistic Silver Tips. One shot at under 50 yards, the "varmint" bullet broke ribs going in and exited the off side.
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