Author Topic: Shotgun Adapters? (Read 37679 times)

Ganjiro · « **on:** December 24, 2011, 05:25:41 PM »

For those that own Pardner single shots but can't afford a new 357 mag or 44 mag barrel, have any of you thought of trying barrel adapters? I know the accuracy won't match a long barrel but I have heard in other forums of 4" groups at 75 yards which is still minute of deer. Might be fun for plinking using cat-sneeze loads. At under $20 a pop it sounds like affordable fun. Other sizes also available 22LR, 22mag, 45ACP, 45 Colt, 9mm, etc. http://www.gunadapters.com/ Just thinking out loud.

20 ga. to 357 mag:
http://www.gunadapters.com/products/20-gauge-to-38%252d357-mag-.html

12 ga. to 357 mag:
http://www.gunadapters.com/products/12-gauge-to-38%252d357-Shotgun-adapter..html

12 ga. to 44 mag:
http://www.gunadapters.com/products/12-gauge-to-44-mag-shotgun-adapters.html

Lon371 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 24, 2011, 10:54:41 PM »

Would probably be ok to put in your survival bag. As long as you expect accuracy of a snub nose single shot

Just looked at the site again. Did you read the 1 review at the bottom.

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It works like a charm, i ue a cut down cleaning rod to eject fired shells. Love it im gonna get one in 12 gauge.

Not sure I want to use a range rod for ejecting everytime.

Lonny

garbhead · « **Reply #2 on:** December 24, 2011, 11:38:46 PM »

do these adapters have rifling or just smooth? reckon a 357max would shoot in these also?

Lon371 · « **Reply #3 on:** December 24, 2011, 11:45:27 PM »

From the looks of the adapter, they are just long enough to fill the chamber. If they have rifling, it will not be much.

The Max probably would not work, unless you rechambered the adapter. But then again, I am only guessing.

Lonny

bikerbeans · « **Reply #4 on:** December 25, 2011, 02:03:17 AM »

garbhead,

some of the adapters are rifled some are not. Also the adapters can be found in different lengths, some are full barrel length rifled adapters and some are only chamber length w/o rifling. I have seen others that are rifled and form a few inches to 8 to 10 inches in length. Finding one is a hit or miss proposition. This is a company, in Alaska IIRC, that makes a many different rifled inserts that are full length or almost full length but I have heard their shipping times are long. There are older posts on this firm, someone probably will remember their website address.

I have a unrifled, chamber length adapter that will let me shoot a 32 H&R Mag in my 30-06 Handi. The "freebore" bullet jump to the rifling does nothing to help accuracy but it is fun to play with.

BB

tireman · « **Reply #5 on:** December 25, 2011, 02:58:37 AM »

Do you think it would be safe to get these and shoot 410 in old demaskus barrel shot guns? thanks tireman

Ganjiro · « **Reply #6 on:** December 25, 2011, 06:52:36 AM »

Quote from: Lon371 on December 24, 2011, 10:54:41 PM

Would probably be ok to put in your survival bag. As long as you expect accuracy of a snub nose single shot

Just looked at the site again. Did you read the 1 review at the bottom.
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It works like a charm, i ue a cut down cleaning rod to eject fired shells. Love it im gonna get one in 12 gauge.

Not sure I want to use a range rod for ejecting everytime.
Lonny

The adapter has a rim so ejects just fine just like a shotgun case. Afterwards you use a short rod provided to push the case out of the adapter but the video says usually the case will drop right out without the rod.

Ganjiro · « **Reply #7 on:** December 25, 2011, 06:55:21 AM »

Here ya go: http://mcaceak.com/index.html

Quote from: bikerbeans on December 25, 2011, 02:03:17 AM

garbhead,

some of the adapters are rifled some are not. Also the adapters can be found in different lengths, some are full barrel length rifled adapters and some are only chamber length w/o rifling. I have seen others that are rifled and form a few inches to 8 to 10 inches in length. Finding one is a hit or miss proposition. This is a company, in Alaska IIRC, that makes a many different rifled inserts that are full length or almost full length but I have heard their shipping times are long. There are older posts on this firm, someone probably will remember their website address.

I have a unrifled, chamber length adapter that will let me shoot a 32 H&R Mag in my 30-06 Handi. The "freebore" bullet jump to the rifling does nothing to help accuracy but it is fun to play with.

BB

bikerbeans · « **Reply #8 on:** December 25, 2011, 07:03:32 AM »

Quote from: Ganjiro on December 25, 2011, 06:55:21 AM

Here ya go: http://www.mcace.com/shotguninserts.htm

Quote from: bikerbeans on December 25, 2011, 02:03:17 AM
garbhead,

some of the adapters are rifled some are not. Also the adapters can be found in different lengths, some are full barrel length rifled adapters and some are only chamber length w/o rifling. I have seen others that are rifled and form a few inches to 8 to 10 inches in length. Finding one is a hit or miss proposition. This is a company, in Alaska IIRC, that makes a many different rifled inserts that are full length or almost full length but I have heard their shipping times are long. There are older posts on this firm, someone probably will remember their website address.

I have a unrifled, chamber length adapter that will let me shoot a 32 H&R Mag in my 30-06 Handi. The "freebore" bullet jump to the rifling does nothing to help accuracy but it is fun to play with.

BB

Thank you sir!

BB

Yak Angler · « **Reply #9 on:** December 25, 2011, 11:53:26 AM »

I think those are a cool idea and alot easier to throw in your pack than an extra barrel too, i hike a fair distance into my hunting spots and the 20 gauge to 9mm adapter would be alot of fun if accuracy was decent, too bad they didn't make them with a 8-10" rifled barrel attached. I might have to contact them to see if shipping north of the border is possible.

Does anyone have a link to a company that makes one with a barrel attached?

rio grande · « **Reply #10 on:** December 26, 2011, 04:09:20 AM »

I have a Dina Adapter in 12/.45acp. It is about as short as the gunadapters one pictured above, but it IS rifled.
Surprising accuracy for such a short barrel, but just about 3" at 15 yards, minute of bunny.
Lots of fun, good for training. Shoots pretty much to point of aim with bead sight.

https://www.dinaarms.com/

Yak Angler · « **Reply #11 on:** December 26, 2011, 04:35:58 AM »

They look interesting, i just ordered one so i will post my range report after it arrives, if nothing else it will be a fun novelty to toy with when the hunting is slow.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #12 on:** December 26, 2011, 05:06:27 AM »

I have one that is chamber length for a 12 guage to 9mm. It works but I have not shot it for accuracy/group....<><....

Yak Angler · « **Reply #13 on:** December 26, 2011, 05:45:06 AM »

I got the 20 gauge to 9mm chamber size adapter, if it provides snub nose revolver accuracy i will be more than happy, I found the website for the guy in alaska who makes ones with longer barrels, he is asking $ 100 bucks for one with a barrel more than double the length of the average pistol barrel so im sure performance is much better than most pistols with his probably close to a dedicated handi rifle in those sepcific calibers. If i like the functionality of the one i bought when it arrives i might consider ordering one of the longer barrel models. Since i already have a 9mm pistol im not out much if it doesn't work very well and the thought of having both 20 gauge and 9mm pistol performance in the same single barrel shotgun sounds like a good time to me.

Ganjiro · « **Reply #14 on:** December 26, 2011, 03:21:26 PM »

I emailed the company to inquire if the adapter beyond the chamber is rifled. This was the reply I got:
"Howdy! No our adapters are not rifled but they are accurate out to 20 yards."
I'm anxious to hear field reports. Thanks!

smokehouserex · « **Reply #15 on:** January 06, 2012, 06:40:11 PM »

Hello Gangiro:
I have made 4 different adaptors for my SG's. 2 are rifle bbls and are over 16". A 30-06 for cast bullets and a 8mm for cast as well. I would not rec. hi pressure rifle loads at all. My 20ga, has a 357 insert but I only shoot 38"s in it, I put rifle sights on it for better aiming. The 12ga, also has a 45ACP insert and has a rifle sight also.
On the 2 pistol cal's I used take off bbls. and threaded them into the chamber insert for a little better accuracy. They were mostly hobby projects and the pistol bbls. were in only fair condition to start with but are better than smooth bores. I chambered them close to the bbl. so as not to have too much jump before engaging the rifling but accuracy is fair with the old bbls. A old bbl is good stock to use for inserts as they are good steel and are already heat treated.
If I were going to buy a insert I would buy the rifled ones. Put a O-Ring on the insert to stabilize it from movement in the SG bbl.
They are fun to play with, I put a bbl. and ammo in the gun case pouch for extra shooting when taking one of the SG's hunting or to the range. I use a chop-stick for case removal when needed. I do not carry centerfire ammo or inserts when hunting small game because it is illegal here.
safety first
HM

tacklebury · « **Reply #16 on:** January 08, 2012, 07:08:33 AM »

The adapters Rio Grande posted are rifled. If you go to the store, you can see the rifling at the end of them.

http://store.dinaarms.com/product_p/16ga45colt.htm

RPRNY · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2012, 12:59:48 PM »

I never thought of 'chamber mates' in handgun calibers for a shotgun and found this intriguing, especially when the partially rifled adapters (Dina?) are $20. But then I asked myself - what for? Only the 10" - 18"rifled adapters above will offer anything like accuracy at more than 10 yards, so it's not like having a combi-gun or Bergstutz for overlappping seasons, as in, "hey while I'm out here hunting grouse, I may as well shoot a deer". While that may be feasible with the 10" or 18" adapters, for their price, another handi barrel is a very viable alternative. What about dangerous game and/or people. Agreed, 1 oz of #7.5 is not a useful load in your 20 ga under such circumstances. But again, "oh, that bear is taking an overly keen interest in me. I shall insert my .357 adapter, find my pistol ammo, load my gun and fire before he eats me". Not. Well what about "because we can"? Fair enough. That's a good enough reason for me.

But for the other reasons, wouldn't it be cheaper, easier and at least as effective to keep and carry a few Foster or Brenneke slugs "handi". One's theoretical dear becomes a realistic 40 yard possibility and both bears and bogeymen would have more to fear, methinks...

Yak Angler · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2012, 01:34:35 PM »

They are more or less a novelty, If my 9mm adapter ever arrives i will post how it performs, its a rifled one.

No doubt a 20 gauge slug of any kind offer's more performance than any of the pistol calibers , not anything in north america inside 50 yards a 20 gauge brenekke or similar wouldn't dispatch quite easily with a well placed shot in the vitals.

darkgael · « **Reply #19 on:** January 17, 2012, 08:07:39 AM »

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They are not all short. This one is quite accurate at 50 yards - given the sight on a shotgun. From McAce.
Pete

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jpshaw · « **Reply #20 on:** January 18, 2012, 01:45:00 AM »

Wish someone would make one a bitty-bit offset (to fire rimfire) in .22 LR.

tallyho · « **Reply #21 on:** January 18, 2012, 08:21:46 PM »

Quote from: jpshaw on January 18, 2012, 01:45:00 AM

Wish someone would make one a bitty-bit offset (to fire rimfire) in .22 LR.

Ask and ye shall receive...

http://store.dinaarms.com/product_p/20ga22lr.htm

jpshaw · « **Reply #22 on:** January 19, 2012, 01:38:24 AM »

Wow! tallyho, I'm impressed and it's rifled too. That post cost me 20 bucks.

tallyho · « **Reply #23 on:** January 19, 2012, 06:15:47 AM »

... a small price to pay to have a wish come true. "Wish someone would make one a bitty-bit offset (to fire rimfire) in .22 LR."

evidrine · « **Reply #24 on:** January 19, 2012, 07:19:07 AM »

You can also find them on shotgunadapters.com and ebay.

Yak Angler · « **Reply #25 on:** January 24, 2012, 01:16:15 PM »

I got a very pleasant surprise today when i got home from work. The mail carrier had delivered my 20 gauge to 9mm adapter. Mine is made by Dinaarms It has about 1.5 inchs of rifling. I haven't shot it yet and probably won't have time for a few more weeks to do any type of accuracy testing but my guess is snub nose revolver performance. It uses an o-ring to hold the case tight into the chamber and a small screw driver will be needed to removed the fired case from this adapter.

tacklebury · « **Reply #26 on:** January 24, 2012, 03:45:04 PM »

Cool inform us of it's performance when time allows.

bucken · « **Reply #27 on:** January 24, 2012, 05:05:12 PM »

I also received a Dinaarms 12 GA to 9 MM this weekend. Description is just as Adam_R describes, but the "rifling" is very shallow and entire adapter is all-aluminum. Not sure how well the "rifling" will hold up, or if it actually even does anything. With that said, I placed it in a 26" Pardner, with an American Eagle 115 GR (range ammo) 9 MM, and took a shot at a leaf sticking out of the snow in the back yard. Distance was about 20 yards. Using only the front bead sight, I surprised myself by actually hitting the leaf! I only fired the one shot. Empty 9 MM case was easily pushed out, just using a wooden pencil. Everything looked good, including primer indentation being just what you would expect. There was no indication that the bullet ever touched the inside of the barrel, just minor powder residue. Not bad for $20.

tacklebury · « **Reply #28 on:** January 24, 2012, 05:08:10 PM »

Sweet

Just noticed that another company that makes these is making some longer 9mm rifled ones.

http://www.gunadapters.com/12-guage-to-9mm-extended-length-rifled-adapter/

jpshaw · « **Reply #29 on:** January 25, 2012, 03:10:47 AM »

Has anyone ever used Dinaarms. They sure want to know a lot about me while not letting me know their phone number, address or anything at all. It's "give me your credit card number" I really want that .22 adaptor but they are very vaque about themselves.