30-30 and 150 nosler bt / Levolution or h4895 powder

[Deerhunter#1]

Well I have decided to give these bullets a try in my 30-30 handi's. I was getting great resulets with 125 grain bullets and h4895. I have seen some post about this bullets use here but no results as to accuracy and game performance from the 30-30. Hodgan max load of h4895 has a velocity of 2390. levolution is 2512 max load data. minus say 50 ft second for the 24" barrel. As long as i am above 2300 i will be happy as that is the speed i am looking for at the minimum. If anyone has tried these combos any info would be great. Thanks   

[44 Man]

I have to say that I have used H4895 for everything I have loaded with the 30-30 and have had great success.  You may be able to get a little more velocity with the LVR powder, but you still are stuck with bullets matched to the velocitiy that a 30-30 is capable of.  My H4895 shoots so well, I'm not about to change!  I was at the range today and I got 2 more 1/2" groups (100 yds) with my old Topper 30-30 and H4895!  44 Man

[petemi]

I am shooting the 168 gr. Nosler Boat Tail Ballistic Tip over a sub-max load of LVR for 2400 fps.  The bullet's reliable expansion range is 1900 to 3200 fps, with a high BC of .490.  It is about an inch high at 50, 2.5 high at 100 and dead on at 200 with 2000 fps and 1600 ft/lbs remaining.  It is a very accurate load.  I'm also using the same load as the chamber round in my lever gun.  I'll have to wait until November to see how it works on deer.  I think it'll do well.

Pete

[quickdtoo]

Per the Nosler FAQs, the minimum impact velocity for the Ballistic tip is 1600fps, max is 3000fps. 

Tim

http://www.noslerreloading.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1347

[petemi]

Ballistic Tip:
Minimum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- 1600 fps
Maximum Impact Velocity for Reliable Expansion- 3000 fps

You're correct Tim.  I grabbed the Accubond expansion poop in error

Pete

[g00dtime]

I know almost >>0<< about reloading (but I'm going to start doing it soon) so go easy on me.


For a .30-30 H&R you could load any bullet that would fit down the pipe, can't you? Obviously it has to be tuned in conjunction with the type and amount of powder, but the limitations placed by a tube magazine lever gun just aren't there.


Or have I put my foot in it?

[mauser98us]

IMR 3031/H4895 30-30, you can't lose.

[demented]

 I know that a 30-30 with IV of 2300 fps, the 150 NBT will drop a deer in its tracks at 170 yards, just as dead as when hit by my  .308.   My opinion is that the NBT will add at least 50 yards to the usable range of the 30-30 over a RN or FP slug.

[Deerhunter#1]

getting off  subject with the nbt a little.The 160 ftx has flown good in my handis. do you feel it would be an issue using the 160 ftx .308  express version. reason i ask is there is a site with a great price on them rite now. the original ftx has a bc of .330 and the 308 vesion is .390. I know the cannulu will be in a different location but I dont crimp anyway. Per hornady they will also expand down to 1650 which i confirmed witha call to them.

[tony212]

I have been using Nosler 150 grain Ballistic Tips in my H&R model 158 .30-30 for years and they work great.  I use IMR 3031 powder but I'm at work now and can't check my records for the exact charge.   My nephew has taken 3 deer with them and all were one shot kills.  No problems and good acuaracy.
Tony212

[cwlongshot]

I know almost >>0<< about reloading (but I'm going to start doing it soon) so go easy on me.


For a .30-30 H&R you could load any bullet that would fit down the pipe, can't you? Obviously it has to be tuned in conjunction with the type and amount of powder, but the limitations placed by a tube magazine lever gun just aren't there.


Or have I put my foot in it?

If your only shooting paper or targets, YES ANY .308 bullet can be shoot able. Pointed (Spitzer) bullets, round nose or flat point make no difference in a single shot action. That's as it pertains to the action, but there can be a considerable difference in ballistics with streamlined projectiles. Generally speaking 250-300 yards is the magic distance where a stream lined. Joliet begins to out pace a blunt nose bullet. Again generally speaking that's beyond what most people consider 30-30 working range. MOSTLY this is because of the firearms this caliber is chambered in. Less to do with the caliber itself. It has minimal powder capacity so it's dose t creat allot of "horse power" to make it a real long range cartridge. But finding a good bullet and load then firing it in a accurate rifle you can defineately have a 300 yard deer sized hunting rifle.



BUT if hunting with them, look at the manufacturers recomended velocity range and be sure your impact distance is within those perameters.

CW

[Deerhunter#1]

well my nbt 150 and hor ftx came in today and will get to loading. man do my 30-30 have long throats! I seated the nosler so that the bt was just in the case and closed the action and they both shut and locked up great. To my surpise when ejected they were in the same spot and didnt move. I was thinking of starting at 2.85 col for the 150 nbt anyone using this care to share what the used as a length. Thanks

[petemi]

I'm loading the 168 gr. BTs to 2.825.

Pete

[Deerhunter#1]

Good to know so i am close. I seated some of the ftx in some shells and closed it my 157 model barrel is 2.72 compaired to my newer model being 2.62

[quickdtoo]

I worked loads up for the 150gr Nosler Partition long ago in my first 30-30 Handi, it was into the lands at 2.713", loaded to 2.700" never got em to shoot better than 1½" at 100yds tho.

Tim

[demented]

My rifle certainly isn't match accurate with my load either but it will work out to 200-250 yards for deer, this being its intended use all along.  I think the LVR powder MIGHT be at its best trying to get all the velocity out of the 30-30 that its possible to milk from the old girl.   I'm sure I can get well over 2400 with LVR, something I've never managed to do with any other powder.