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9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« on: July 30, 2012, 12:11:13 PM »
Finally made a range trip today, took the 9.3x62 Superlight and 376 Steyr, both showed some good accuracy, and I suspect much better than what the targets show since both beat me up, specially the 9.3x62 which scoped me not once, not twice, but three times!  :-[ I'm almost 65yrs old, been shooting since I was about 8yrs old and have never been cut by a scope, knocked my hat off a few times, but never drew blood, I made up for it today! ??? I made two mistakes, first of all I chose a Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Ultralight for the 9.3x62, it has less eye relief than standard Leupy scopes, but thought I'd be Ok, but the recoil and particularly muzzle jump of the light rifle made it wicked, if I didn't have an iron grip on the forend when shooting, it would come right out of my hand and whack me which it did too many times. So I'm gonna have to do some scope swapping. The second mistake was not taking the Leadsled, just used a PAST Magnum shield with the rifle on a Rock BR rest, I didn't want to pack the Leadsled DFT down the hill and back out again, so went as light as possible, big mistake, I think the sled would have helped alot. My shoulder is a bit sore too!  ::)

Anyway they both seem to show potential to shoot good, light to mid loads seemed best, but I suspect part of the larger groups were my fault due to the recoil & muzzle jump, groups varied from ½"-¾" up to 3" with several in between, particularly showing too much vertical spread which leads me to believe it was my fault for not controlling the rifle well.

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 12:19:43 PM »
Looks like you got a couple of winners there Tim,esp the 9.3 Superlight! it gets blood on both ends ;D Maybe it should be known as the 9.3 SUPERKICK
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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 12:46:58 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D Thanks George, I think the 250gr Accubonds will be a nice treat in comparison, specially on the sled.  8) Kinda thinking maybe I should went with the 232gr Normas, and I don't know if'n I'm even gonna try the 325gr Normas that I got on sale! ::) 

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 07:58:47 PM »
Tim,
 
Welcome to my world of attacking eye boxes! ::)   I reccommend switching to the newer Redfields as they have a nice sharp edge and leave a very nice crecent shaped divot in your forehead. :o   I think you are correct on the vertical stringing.  I have a PAST Mag pad as well and pretty much gave up on it because of the up and down groupings.  Glad your new chamberings are working for you. 
 
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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 10:11:41 PM »
That Steyr looks like its a bit better! Almost 2700fps and about 1" is DAMN respectable!!

BB, That Leupy has the same sharp edge!

Mt first BLR was in 358, not a aweful recoiler, BUT the damn muzzle would lerch skyward if you didn't hang on! My pop shot that rifle three times... after the first time and the scope bite (3X Leupold M8) he swore never to shoot it again. Well, he didn't for a couple years until he did. ;) guess what... Yup it "bit" him again. :o ::)

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2012, 11:13:47 PM »
Be careful Timmy, that scope eye is a major cause of flinching, and you don't want to do that :'(   First thing I'd do is put a long eye relief scope on them.........yeah......like a scout mount ::) ::)   I caught a couple off the bench with the .45-70 and I was flinching.  It took a lot of work and concentration to get rid of it.  I like my little rifles light and my big ones heavy.  The .356/.358 is only 18 inches, so it's fairly light, but it's recoil is fairly mild, comparable to our shorty .38-55s with a stout load.  I enjoy shooting both.

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 12:10:46 AM »
That scope eye thing usually happens to the best of us...after shooting my 45-70 several times using open sights..thought I'd be OK when I scoped it...NOT!...anyway check out closeups of Dwight Yoakam's forehead sometimes...
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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2012, 12:55:22 AM »
  I have a 9.3 X 62 in a Sig Sauer rifle that I took to WY antelope hunting a few years ago.  I had a 3x9 Burris on it at the time and shooting it while laying on my belly put 3 half circles on my forehead and over eyebrow.   Im happy to say that everything I shot at with the rifle died and everyone back at camp got a big laugh at my " Weaver Bites ", thats the name they came up with.
 Like many variable power scopes, when you have them at top power they loose about a inch of eye releif and with hot loaded big bore you had better hang on !
  As a side note up until a few years ago Nosler used to make there ballistic tipped bullet in 9.3 @ 250 grs. it had a BC in the high .480"s and was a great bullet for long range.  Sadly they quit making them.  :(       Jedman
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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2012, 03:00:53 AM »
Tim,
 
Welcome to my world of attacking eye boxes! ::)   I reccommend switching to the newer Redfields as they have a nice sharp edge and leave a very nice crecent shaped divot in your forehead. :o   I think you are correct on the vertical stringing.  I have a PAST Mag pad as well and pretty much gave up on it because of the up and down groupings.  Glad your new chamberings are working for you. 
 
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Actually my glasses "cushioned" the blows, instead of a circular cut, I got a couple horizontal slices from the frame cross bar which bent, must be sort of a "crumple zone"!! ;D The third hit was also cushioned by the pad of paper towel I had stuck there to sop up all the blood so I could see to shoot!! ???

I did some scope swapping last night, put the Ultralight on the 7mm-08 Superlight and the VX-II 2-7x32 on the 9.3x62. I also found that the scope base was loose which didn't help things, the tapered head of the screws I used on the thinned Leupold base were too thick and not tight enough, had allowed the base to move just a little, so I also swapped out those with a screw with a thinner head and radiused the hole a little, if that doesn't work, I'll change em 8-40.

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2012, 03:03:37 AM »
That Steyr looks like its a bit better! Almost 2700fps and about 1" is DAMN respectable!!

BB, That Leupy has the same sharp edge!

Mt first BLR was in 358, not a aweful recoiler, BUT the damn muzzle would lerch skyward if you didn't hang on! My pop shot that rifle three times... after the first time and the scope bite (3X Leupold M8) he swore never to shoot it again. Well, he didn't for a couple years until he did. ;) guess what... Yup it "bit" him again. :o ::)

Good shooting, Tim!

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Thanks CW, now I know why some scopes have rubber rings on the eye bells!! ;D

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2012, 03:10:16 AM »
Be careful Timmy, that scope eye is a major cause of flinching, and you don't want to do that :'(   First thing I'd do is put a long eye relief scope on them.........yeah......like a scout mount ::) ::)   I caught a couple off the bench with the .45-70 and I was flinching.  It took a lot of work and concentration to get rid of it.  I like my little rifles light and my big ones heavy.  The .356/.358 is only 18 inches, so it's fairly light, but it's recoil is fairly mild, comparable to our shorty .38-55s with a stout load.  I enjoy shooting both.

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No flinching done Pete, I was very aware of that possibility, I had a couple no fires with the CCI250 primers I used(another mistake!) in essense, dry firing will always reveal a flinch, got the good habit of follow thru from my flintlock shooting days!  ;D Primer hits are slighty off center, rotating the round 180º in the chamber worked to set them off on the second hit.

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2012, 03:17:49 AM »
  I have a 9.3 X 62 in a Sig Sauer rifle that I took to WY antelope hunting a few years ago.  I had a 3x9 Burris on it at the time and shooting it while laying on my belly put 3 half circles on my forehead and over eyebrow.   Im happy to say that everything I shot at with the rifle died and everyone back at camp got a big laugh at my " Weaver Bites ", thats the name they came up with.
 Like many variable power scopes, when you have them at top power they loose about a inch of eye releif and with hot loaded big bore you had better hang on !
  As a side note up until a few years ago Nosler used to make there ballistic tipped bullet in 9.3 @ 250 grs. it had a BC in the high .480"s and was a great bullet for long range.  Sadly they quit making them.  :(       Jedman

I turned the scope down to 6x after the first bite, it helped, but holding the forend with a death grip helped the most. My hunting load will be the 250gr Accubond, it has a BC of .494".  ;D I googled the BT to see if anyone had any in stock because I read that many hunters had loved them and recommended them, I found some retailers that listed them, but none to be had. :-\

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2012, 08:44:05 AM »
That sounds rough.  A better designed stock would probably help immensely with keeping the rifle away from the eye.  Great accuracy though!

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2012, 11:30:33 AM »
Tim, I use these on my 300 Weatherby and the .45-90, they're really worth it:

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2012, 12:24:47 PM »
Thanks Tyler!!  ;)

Thanks Joe, but I dunno if that would help much, it would still whack my glasses which is what cut me, maybe I need to put a rubber bumper on them!!  ;D But the 2-7x33 Leupy has 3.8" eye relief on 7x which is about what the 3-9x33 has on 3x For hunting I always keep scopes on the lowest setting, 2x on the 2-7x, then it has almost 5"! 

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2012, 07:36:39 PM »
" Primer hits are slightly off center, rotating the round 180º in the chamber worked to set them off on the second hit.

Tim"

I had the same problem with the .356/.358.  I swapped frames.  The hits were still slightly off center, but the misfire was gone. ;)

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2012, 01:04:24 AM »
Pete, you nailed it, great reason to own a bunch of Handi's!  Timmy, ya need to be careful of that beautiful face!  A few scars is "manly", too many is "you-gly" ;D .  Gotta keep them pretty waitress's flirting' wid ya. ;) ;D   DP
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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #17 on: August 01, 2012, 03:04:17 AM »
I had the same problem with the .356/.358.  I swapped frames.  The hits were still slightly off center, but the misfire was gone. ;)

Pete

I think the bigger problem is the CCI 250 primers, I haven't had a problem with Federal 210s, so that's what I'll use with the Accubonds, the data called for RL17 and CCI250, so that's what I went with since I had em, I'd never use em for hunting, but since the 270gr Speers are just for break-in, figured I'd use the 250s and get rid of em, CCIs have been a PITA before.  ::)

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2012, 03:09:06 AM »
Just more character marks DP, just like on a rifle, they tell a story!!  ;D

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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2012, 12:23:46 PM »
quick,
          would a 376 steyer reamer clean up a 38-55 chamber?
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Re: 9.3x62 and 376 Steyr Range Report
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2012, 01:43:01 PM »
Yes, you'd need an oversize pilot on the reamer, the lands in mine are .374"ish, much bigger than a normal .375" bore.

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