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Offline billyg4

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H&R Top Break ID Help
« on: October 31, 2012, 11:07:08 AM »
I'm new to the sight so please bear with me. I recently inherited a revolver for which I would like to know the date of manufacture, etc. From reading many posts in this forum it appears to be a Premier .32 break-top. Stamped on the barrel is: HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON ARMS COMPANY WORCHESTER, MASS. OCTOBER 4TH,1897. There is no stamp on either side of the barrel. It is an auto eject & six shot. Barrell length is 3 1/4 inches. The entire gun appears nickel plated. The serial # is 4574 (no prefix) and was found under the top strap with the cylinder removed. The back of the cylinder is stamped 574. Any info is appreciated.

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Re: H&R Top Break ID Help
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 03:46:28 PM »
The real experts are no longer with us, but this was a recent top break discussion: 
 
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,249926.0.html
 
I believe yours would be first edition Premier top break.  It all comes down to the the patent numbers and I also found posts about this here:
H&R PREMER FIRST MODEL SMALL FRAME TOP BREAK
(BLACK POWDER)------------------------1895-1904
Small fame double action top break revolver with double top post barrel latch; calibers and cylinder capacity, 22 rimfire-7 rounds, 32 centerfire-5 rounds; Free wheeling cylinder (no automatic cylinder stop); standard finish Nickel with case harden hammer and barrel latch; standard barrel length 3 inches, with 4, 5 and 6 inches available as optional; features a scaled down version of the new frame and double action mechanism introduced in 1890 on the Auto-Ejecting Second Model, does not have caliber marking on left
NO CALIBER MARKINGS ON LEFT SIDE OF BARREL MANUFACTURED FOR BLACK POWDER CARTRIDGE PRESSURES
First Variation, patent dates 10-4-87, 5-14-89, 2-23-92, serial number range 01*-15,000 (estimate)------------------------------1895-April 1896
Second Variation, patent dates 10-4-87, 5-14-89, 4-2-95, 4-7-96, serial number range 15,000*-20,000* (estimate)------------------May 1896
Third Variation, patent dates 10-4-87, 4-2-95, 4-7-96, serial number range 20,000* to 100,000* (estimate)-------------------------1897-1898
Fourth Variation, automatic cylinder stop same patent dates as 3rd variation several different serial number series that may have letter codes---1899-1903
Fifth Variation use different font in barrel markings and may have an A letter code in the serial number---------------------------------1904 -only
VALUE: 100%=$285 60%=$75 Add 10% premium for blue finish; 20% premium 4”, 5” or 6” barrel; 20% premium for 22 rimfire caliber
 
Tacklebury --}>>>>>    Multi-Barrel: .223 Superlite, 7mm-08 22", .30-40 Krag M158, .357 Maximum 16-1/4 HB, .45 Colt, .45-70 22" irons, 32" .45-70 Peeps, 12 Ga. 3-1/2 w/ Chokes, .410 Smooth slugger, .45 Cal Muzzy, .50 Cal Muzzy, .58 Cal Muzzy

also classics: M903 9-shot Target .22 Revolver, 1926 .410 Single, 1915 38 S&W Break top Revolver and 7-shot H&R Trapper .22 6" bbl.


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Re: H&R Top Break ID Help
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2012, 05:40:45 AM »
Thank you for the prompt and concise reply. The information is just what I was looking for. In reading other posts recently, I saw where we recently lost a true expert and I'm sure he is missed. Again, thanks.