Got to go in to town today anyway, so i am going to see if I can even find a handi. No luck on that front yet, and that may be the case else were when Wall mart stops selling guns in other areas. Been to three out of five places i know of ,one was closed for vacation {am stopping there again today} one pretty much only sold hand guns. the other is a high end dealer,and well ,he just wasnt very helpull. He was a dealer from the NEF website.he would order one but realy wasnt interested in doing it. and was a bit steep in his price. probaly end up waiting untill after i move out of here , but I am going to look anyway. have shoot my brother,s H&R 12 gauge.it was a fine little gun. he gut a deer with it on a trip were my higher dollar bolt action 30 06 had a missfire twice. turned out to be sort of my fault so wont name the gun right now. how were miss fires my fault. easy i doped a shell and picked it up and put it in the gun with only a quick whipe. pine pich on the shoulder. cushioned the the fireing pin so it was a dirty chamber with the fault falling squarly on me. However the less expensive gun was the one going home with the meat. I should wait , but I want to see what a handi feels like now. Where are most of you guys finding your new guns ? small stores or the biger ones? D.C. Don