Author Topic: VTR DATA AND PICS (Read 3059 times)

NONYA · « **on:** February 17, 2008, 02:30:43 AM »

Im starting this thread to share pics and data on the new Remington VTR rifle.Mine is in 308,topped with a bushnell elite 3200 10x mildot scope.I have included pics of the new trigger and the loaction of the 3 1/16 allen head screws that adjust it in the same manner as the older mdl 700 triggers.

NONYA · « **Reply #1 on:** February 17, 2008, 02:31:38 AM »

The three trigger adjustment screws

NONYA · « **Reply #2 on:** February 17, 2008, 02:32:18 AM »

The action removed from the stock

NONYA · « **Reply #3 on:** February 17, 2008, 02:33:29 AM »

the stock with action/barrel removed,you can see the two presure points remington is so fond of with their stocks before....

and after removal with a dremel,I also placed a 1/8 steel spacer in the slot that the barrel lug sits in to create the kind of clearance i like between my barrel and stock,now its truley free floated

sniperVLS · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2008, 02:36:49 AM »

Nice, and Thanks! The backlash screw is the one I didn't see. I was in a rush when I tore mine down but that's no excuse. I'll go put myself in a timeout. Hey, for the short amount of time you shot a few rounds off, are you as impressed with the Bushnell as I am?

NONYA · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2008, 03:04:31 AM »

I like it so much i may put one on the 7 mag,I am becoming a big fan of the 10x fixed power scopes for long range work,1 less thing I have to consider when making that long shot,Im also getting away from any scope with an adjustable AO,I want to keep things constant with all my long range shooters so another Bushnell elite will be coming home soon.

drdougrx · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2008, 03:39:09 AM »

Hey Nonya,

That is the coolest rifle I've seen in a long while for sure!! May I ask how much it set you back???

NONYA · « **Reply #7 on:** February 17, 2008, 03:54:13 AM »

I payed $620 with a %5 discount.

coyote trapper1928 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 17, 2008, 07:19:37 AM »

Remington has a $50.00 rebate that you can print out on their website.

sniperVLS · « **Reply #9 on:** February 17, 2008, 08:56:20 AM »

NONYA, sounds you like the Elite as much as I do

Unless something better comes out and at that same price point, I'm mounting that same model on every rifle I get from now on. I may even go back and replace all the Super Snipers with it, I like it that much. I can't get over how good the glass is on such an affordable scope!

And after looking at your stock pics, yep, same exact cheap feeling stock the SPS Varmint has I've come to dislike. For those wondering and who haven't seen my comments about the stocks in the past, Don't get me wrong, Remmy did their homework, it doesn't hinder the accuracy one bit so put those worries aside. When I say cheap, I mean the way it feels and the way it's weighted. Well it's not weighted, if it weighs more than 1/4 lb I'd be shocked

Now the question is how has removing those pressure points improved upon an already very slick package

Per the rebate...

Why don't they have the symbol next to the .308 version?! I hope it's not because they know they are already out of that caliber!

Go to the VTR page and look for yourselves.

NONYA · « **Reply #10 on:** February 17, 2008, 02:53:15 PM »

I was told they have shipped all the 308s they are going to for the year and they are pushing the other calibers,thats what my FFLs remington rep told him,he couldnt get one for me.I love the light stock,ive been humping my heavy ass 7mag rig for so long this VTR feels like a dream on the shoulder,gonna love packing it in for the spring bear season.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2008, 03:51:40 PM »

Is this rifle designed for 308 length cartridges only? Is there a future for 30.06 or 7mm Remington Magnum and such?

Cheese

NONYA · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2008, 04:30:09 PM »

iTS A SHORT ACTION,I THINK .308 IS AS ONG AS IT WILL GET.

30-06man · « **Reply #13 on:** February 17, 2008, 05:40:23 PM »

If I don't get one then I am looking at some other guns so it won't be a total loss. Good pictures Nonya.

jvs · « **Reply #14 on:** February 17, 2008, 10:24:59 PM »

How many different configurations does that Bushnell Elite come in?

Do they make Variable? How about Recticles?

I have come to like 2.5 to 7 or 3.5 to 10 power scopes with outside adjustments and bigger than 40mm front lenses on a hunting rifle. For what I plan to do, this set-up would be ideal for that VTR. Over the years I have shyed away from standard 3x9x40 scopes, as long as the scope doesn't sit too high off the action.

NONYA,

Did you take down all 16 (2x8) barrel supports in the channel or just the ones up front? When I look at mine, there appears to be thin supports along the channel about every 2 1/2 inches or so. I know you said you added a spacer, but since you did that, did you have to do any grinding?

sniperVLS · « **Reply #15 on:** February 18, 2008, 01:57:36 AM »

Many configurations for the Elites, plus you have the 3 series to look thru, the 3200, 4200, and 6500s.

3200:
http://www.bushnell.com/general/riflescopes_elite3200.cfm?section=Hunting

4200:
http://www.bushnell.com/general/riflescopes_elite4200.cfm?section=Hunting

6500:
http://www.bushnell.com/general/riflescopes_elite6500.cfm?section=Hunting

I like big turrets that are easily adjustable when wearing gloves so I had less choices but couldn't be more pleased!

NONYA · « **Reply #16 on:** February 18, 2008, 12:12:36 PM »

I just shot the best 5 round group i have ever shot out of a rifle over the hood of a truck at 300 yards,WITH BULK AMMO!You could cover it with the cap off of a can of pringles.This rifle is like a long range version of my CZ 17 hmr when it comes to pinpoint accuracy,im blown away.I cant believe how accurate this Magtech 150 gr ammo is,$32 for 50 rounds,Im going to buy 3 more boxs tonight before they disappear.JVS,with a 1/8 spacer in the slot i didnt have to do any further grinding ther than the two pressure points,I dont know how well it would have shot with them but it shoots like a lazer beam without them,Im super stoked about the performance out of this rifle,I can not wait for the snow to melt off our Augusta ranch so i can go shoot out to 8-900 yards at a 10 inch gong Im working on right now,its gonna be a blast!

sniperVLS · « **Reply #17 on:** February 18, 2008, 02:10:09 PM »

I found the Magtech for 29.00 but once the shipping is tossed in, I'll be paying the same price as you. Just ordered 2 boxes, I'm always up for testing ammo and at that price for 50 rounds, it's a no brainer.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #18 on:** February 18, 2008, 03:34:55 PM »

I believe many people think the 308 is a low power round. It is not. At our local range there is a rock off the the right of the range at about 150 yards. It measures about 3'x3'. I fired several 308 rounds at this rock and the sound of the impact is tremendous and impressive.

Cheese

jvs · « **Reply #19 on:** February 18, 2008, 08:51:29 PM »

In this case, I doubt that changing the stock will do much for accuracy, it could for comfort. To be this consistent out of the box is what you strive for without running into more cost.

I also think the new Remington trigger helps alot.

wareagleguy · « **Reply #20 on:** February 19, 2008, 05:26:37 AM »

Nonya,
Can you give me a little more detail on adding the spacer on the recoil lug? What did you use for the spacer? Did it cover the lug completely or just under the action?

Also, when you removed the contact points did the stock have any flex?

NONYA · « **Reply #21 on:** February 19, 2008, 05:36:21 AM »

I ground a piece of square steel stock to fit in the groove in the stock.It definitely wont hurt accuracy so why not do it?

wareagleguy · « **Reply #22 on:** February 19, 2008, 02:01:54 PM »

Well I cut the contact points out but now I am worried. Now the barrel lays in the channel completely. From what I can see the only way to get the barrel to float is to bed the stock or put a piece of steel UNDER the lug. I ways thought that you should never do that. I always thought the recoil lug should only contact on the back side and never the bottom.

30-06man · « **Reply #23 on:** February 19, 2008, 02:30:35 PM »

Just try what Nonya said. Sounds like you didn't follow his instructions.

NONYA · « **Reply #24 on:** February 19, 2008, 05:27:59 PM »

You have to place a spacer in the hole where the recoil slug is fitted,you can make it whatever height you need to get the clearance you want off the stock,I used steel but you could use anything handy,if you dont have access to a grinder you could cut a square piece of plastic that will fit,or wood,the material doesn't make any difference as long as its solid.

wareagleguy · « **Reply #25 on:** February 19, 2008, 05:29:24 PM »

With the groups Nonya is getting I can't say it is not working for him but I still think that putting contact on the bottom of the recoil lug is a bad idea. This would create a void just under the front action screw would it not? Thus, could cause binding of the action when the screw is tighten down. I think the only thing the recoil lug should do is prevent recoil action but this wouldn't happen in this case. I think it would be best to bed the action at the screws and BEHIND the lug.

Is my thinking wrong?

NONYA · « **Reply #26 on:** February 19, 2008, 05:42:22 PM »

If you think its going to cause a problem put a washer in between the action and stock before you tighten the bolt.IMO you would strip out or break off that screw before you had enough torque on the action to tweak it,its milled out of a very strong piece of steel,its not going to bend before that plastic stock would give way.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #27 on:** February 20, 2008, 11:41:48 AM »

Quote from: NONYA on February 19, 2008, 05:42:22 PM

If you think its going to cause a problem put a washer in between the action and stock before you tighten the bolt.IMO you would strip out or break off that screw before you had enough torque on the action to tweak it,its milled out of a very strong piece of steel,its not going to bend before that plastic stock would give way.

Makes sense to me. Dale

wareagleguy · « **Reply #28 on:** February 20, 2008, 03:10:36 PM »

You guys may be totally correct but I am just uneasy about it so what I did was wrap the barrel with tape to get the height I wanted and built the front screw area with Epoxy Putty. It took and 15 minutes to do. I still have a few more detail sanding to do but here is a photo.

NONYA · « **Reply #29 on:** February 20, 2008, 03:19:49 PM »

Looks like it should work just as well as a spacer,your lug will be floated as well.