Author Topic: OT - and political but - 9th Circuit incorporates the 2nd under the 14th.  (Read 982 times)

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Offline subdjoe

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Your ob't & etc,
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Good post.  I dont think this is OT at all.  I like seeing these kinds of things.  A decision like this is interesting and has far-reaching implications as far as 2nd ammendment rights are concerned.

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A very interesting read with an outcome in which we gained in the interpretation.
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Oddly it allows a county to regulate where guns can be.
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Oddly it allows a county to regulate where guns can be.

That jumped out at me also!
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Oddly it allows a county to regulate where guns can be.

Only because the Gun Show owners would not secure the guns as a matter of course. It clearly states that if they would meet even one of the county's rules that their ruling might be different.

My guess is that (after reading the complete brief) if the Gun Show people had modified their stance on securing the guns that they would have had a much better chance to win this suit. JMHO of course.

Having said all of that I'm overjoyed that we are using an amendment that I consider to be illegal to be of use against state governments in protection of our personal freedoms.
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some of these politicians need to get a lesson in the english langauge and learn what colons and semi -colons and periods mean in all amendments plain and simple and then i dont understand why this one is not used more often to say to the libtards wait a second you cant change things to suit your own needs or think this what they meant when they wrote them

Amendment 9 - Construction of Constitution. Ratified 12/15/1791.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

which protects the 2nd amendment for being interpeted any other way than how it was originally written saying people can own guns plain and simple, and states being able to have militias i. e. national guard

Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


and then by the 1st paragraph in the 14th amendment the lib tards are trying to say they can override the 2nd amendment by having all encompassing control over statelaws concerning guns somehow???? basically is what they are trying to do
once again they need to go back to the 9th amendment and  say you cant do it for your own agenda this was a voting rights /demographics/ citizenship/compensation  amendment not anything else and how they are tying it the 2nd is beyond me

Amendment 14 - Citizenship Rights. Ratified 7/9/1868. Note History

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.




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