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reloading for NEF pardner shotgun reciever
« on: July 18, 2011, 02:01:52 PM »
Hello all , I am going to shoot a new barrel I have , its chambered for 45/410 . I want to know can the receiver take full powered 45LC loads . Can these shotgun receivers handle loads on par for TC/Ruger#1 , or do I start at Colt SA levels?
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Re: reloading for NEF pardner shotgun reciever
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2011, 02:31:43 PM »
In a short answer .....yes. They will handle any load a modern 45 colt will handle........accuracy is another question al together
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Re: reloading for NEF pardner shotgun reciever
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2011, 02:38:07 PM »
The SB1 frame that comes on the 45/410 is the same frame that H&R uses on the current 44mag which has a higher SAAMI MAP at 36kpsi than 45 Colt TC/Ruger(+P) loads, plus the extreme freebore with Colt loads will reduce pressure and breech thrust by a substantial amount, unfortunately, it does the same to accuracy.  :-\

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Re: reloading for NEF pardner shotgun reciever
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2011, 03:23:09 AM »
What type of steel is the 45lc/410 barrel?
 
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Re: reloading for NEF pardner shotgun reciever
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2011, 06:43:31 AM »
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Re: reloading for NEF pardner shotgun reciever
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2011, 08:37:14 AM »
Tim,
 
Want to make sure I get this right since I am thinking about a 45lc/410.  I know that an SB1 is good for 44 Mag SAAMI spec loads.  With the barrel on the 45/410 being 1137 mild steel (shotgun barrel steel I assume) then the weak link in this gun is the chamber?  So is a ruger/TC 45LC load too much pressure for the 45lc/410 barrel?  I understand that the bullet jump will moderate the pressure spike but am thinking along the lines of a cartridge that would allow the 45 slug to be near on touching the rifling.
 
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Re: reloading for NEF pardner shotgun reciever
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2011, 10:41:48 AM »
I don't see it as a problem if you keep the pressures low, JerryKo did quite a bit of shooting with his on an SB2 frame using longer brass, another member is using 9.3x72 brass and Trail Boss. One problem I see is drilling and tapping the barrel for a scope base, I suspect that's the reason for the 444 Contender blow up, he had a 6-hole mount on it!  ::)

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Re: reloading for NEF pardner shotgun reciever
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2011, 02:04:58 PM »
There's a thread in the FAQs(who'd a guessed!!  ::)) on handloading for the 45/410.

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Re: reloading for NEF pardner shotgun reciever
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2011, 02:55:15 PM »
Thanks Tim, I may have to take a look at those FAQs one day. ;D    Looks like the 45LC/410 barrel gives me another oppurtunity (excuse) to resize winchester 410 AA hulls.  I wonder if Budgunshop is on line right now?

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