Difference between a shooter, and a collector. Mid 70's, duck/goose gun I hunted was a model 870, before steel shot and then I went with an Ithaca Mag 10. Beat a guy at the club trap shooting with that 870, I was consistently shooting 23's and 24's.(never shot a 25) He was using, at that time, an over and under whatever that cost a pretty good chunk of money at that time. Threw the gun back in the rack in the clubhouse and mumbled some swear words. First time I came to the conclusion, the guy pulling the trigger is the major factor. I'd rather have a gun that feels good, reliable, and I can shoot, than one that looks good.