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Politics, the News & So Much More => Truth, Lies and Conspiracy Theories => Topic started by: nw_hunter on February 23, 2011, 09:53:34 AM
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Before becoming interested (as an adult) in US history, I would have thought after Washington old Abe Lincoln was. After doing my homework.........Boy was I wrong.
He quite possibly was......."NO" HE is the worst ever.
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4549006/abe-lincoln-worst-president-ever/
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Lincoln was certainly not the man of the hour as it would seem. More and more research is being done and is dulling the bright light he has been shown in, in the past. He certainly usurped ALOT of power.
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Close. Teddy Roosevelt at the turn of the century. In my lifetime clearly Ronald R.
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Close. Teddy Roosevelt at the turn of the century. In my lifetime clearly Ronald R.
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Thomas Jefferson.....maybe the smartest man that ever lived.
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Could be, I like alot of the jeffersonian philosophies. T roosevelt I liked as well, didn't think much of fdr though, alot of his accomplishments were due to other "events". R reagan did not get the credit he deserved on alot of issues.
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I don't know about all those who lived before me, but in my lifetime I remember Harry Truman. He stood up against anti-semitism on May 14th, 1948 by signing a statement recognizing the state of Israel as an official Jewish State.
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Washington , he set the example that worked . In my life time Regan.
Two that need mention are Carter and Obama both have galvanized the American voter to get involved in govt. more than any others . ;)
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Thomas Jefferson. In my lifetime clearly Ronald R.
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Lincoln make have been the worst. But, he has a lot of competition with BHO.
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Before becoming interested (as an adult) in US history, I would have thought after Washington old Abe Lincoln was. After doing my homework.........Boy was I wrong.
He quite possibly was......."NO" HE is the worst ever.
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4549006/abe-lincoln-worst-president-ever/
Never believe the media.....
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In my opinion, the only ones that clearly stand out as great presidents are:
Washington
Jefferson
Teddy Roosevelt
Surely some of the others were able to rise to specific situations and act "presidential" but they weren't there all the time and didn't set the standard.
Reagan for ending the cold war, "defeating" the eastern bloc, getting the "wall" torn down etc.
Bush for response to 9/11
Kennedy for inspiring the race to the moon and standing tall in the Cuban Missile Crisis... of course the Bay of Pigs debacle sort of overshadowed that.
FDR for guiding us through most of WWII
I think after reading some of Washington's writings, he truly had the best interest of the nation for the short and long term at heart. His admonitions against party politics and foreign alliances were spot on and then absolutely unheeded. I'm sure he has been spinning like a gyroscope in his grave ever since the first shovel full dirt was tossed in...
NGH
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For what it is worth
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For what it is worth
Couple of those I would question...........One quit the NRA you know!
Former president George Bush, a gun enthusiast and decades-long member of the National Rifle Association, has resigned from the group because of its statements that agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are "jackbooted thugs" who harass gun owners.
"Your broadside against federal agents deeply offends my own sense of decency and honor, and it offends my concept of service to country," Bush wrote to NRA president Thomas L. Washington in a May 3 letter that was released yesterday. "It indirectly slurs a wide array of government law enforcement officials, who are out there, day and night, laying their lives on the line for all of us."
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For what it is worth
Couple of those I would question...........One quit the NRA you know!
Former president George Bush, a gun enthusiast and decades-long member of the National Rifle Association, has resigned from the group because of its statements that agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms are "jackbooted thugs" who harass gun owners.
"Your broadside against federal agents deeply offends my own sense of decency and honor, and it offends my concept of service to country," Bush wrote to NRA president Thomas L. Washington in a May 3 letter that was released yesterday. "It indirectly slurs a wide array of government law enforcement officials, who are out there, day and night, laying their lives on the line for all of us."
Funny really he could quit the NRA when he didn't like one statement by one other member that was with drawn ,so he could stop being a member and paying dues . Oh well how many times did he offend Americans ?
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William Henry Harrison - he died before he could do any harm.
Second Jefferson - he ended the national bank, payed off the national debt, and kept us out of war with England.
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Teddie Roosevelt was the father of imperialism.
Lincoln was the father of central planning.
Reagan was a master of disguise. He spoke of small government while increasing the it's size and running up the national debt.
These last two have been the worst of all.
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Early on, Jefferson. Closer to now, Reagan. Sorry, but from a Cherokee stand point, Jackson was a two faced scumbag!
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Old Teddy R. was surely a friend to sportsmen, but he also advocated socialized health care, and several other socialized programs that didn't fly in his day.
I'd have to go Washington and Jefferson.
Ben
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Lincoln was not only the worst president in this nations history, he is likly one of the worst if not the worst person to have ever set foot on our soil.
The best president and likly one of the smartest men to have ever lived, Thomas Jefferson.
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For what it is worth
I thought Bush later rebuked his Life membership. That was the strong rumor years ago. Don;t know if its true.
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Ronald Reagan.
Spanky
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Ya yes. James Knox Polk. Died at the age of 53. Only 100 or so days after leaving office. Cause of death: Profuse diarrhea.
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Second Jefferson - he ended the national bank, payed off the national debt (Gary it wasn't Jefferson; it was Jackson who did the deed)
I think it was Washington. Here's a man who was loved by everyone in the country. The people wanted to make him king. He turned it down knowing it violated everything he believed in.
In modern times it was Reagan. He brought back pride to the US which was lacking after vietnam. Of course Obama and his libs go around saying we're sorry to the thugs of the world.
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Jersey,
I have a great old book here that covers all the presidents through Nixon. Its got a condensed verison of all the facts about the guy and what he did as president. It also goes into the facts about birth, overall life and then death details. Its amazing about Polk. I laughed whern I saw that. But thats what it actually has as cause of death. :)
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cabin4,
probably got cholera from tainted water.
bad way to die. killed thousands during the civil
war; probably more than the actual fighting.
You are correct. I did a little more research since we posted about this. It was cholera. So the book should say casue of death Cholera, not .......(no need writing that again). :)
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Seems like most of the mainstream lists of "greatest Presidents" seem to rate 'em by how much they trampled on the Constitution in order to grow their centralized power base. Lincoln, FDR, etc.
Both created more trouble than they were worth, in order to move in and "fix" it all for everyone, "earning" their undying love and admiration. ::)
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Second Jefferson - he ended the national bank, payed off the national debt (Gary it wasn't Jefferson; it was Jackson who did the deed)
I think it was Washington. Here's a man who was loved by everyone in the country. The people wanted to make him king. He turned it down knowing it violated everything he believed in.
In modern times it was Reagan. He brought back pride to the US which was lacking after vietnam. Of course Obama and his libs go around saying we're sorry to the thugs of the world.
Jefferson just about paid it off in his first term. His second term he had problems with England that cost him, but kept us out of war.
I would go along with Washington if he had not listened to Hamilton's merchantilism. I don't think Washington was all that well educated, but he was very honest and respected.
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I remember as a fourth grader we discussed who was our "favorite" president. It was naturally between Lincoln and Washington. I chose Washington and some friends chided me saying "Washington was rich, Lincoln was poor". I remember being totally baffled as to what that had to do with anything. George Washington really was the father of our country, he risked his life on the battlefield and in the fever ridden camps for seven years to make this country possible.
Lincoln was never anything but a lawyer and a politician. I can't decide which profession is the more disreputable.
For the twentieth century, I like Ike.
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Number 13, Millard Fillmore
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1.) Thomas Jefferson , Democratic-Republican Party hands down.
In more modern times
2. )FDR 1933-1945 12 Years
look at hw low he kept National Debt during his presidency 33 -45 - Then look at the debt 5 years after he left office (it soared).
Total employment during Roosevelt's term expanded by 18.31 million jobs, with an average annual increase in jobs during his administration of 5.3%.
Thank God and FDR for the TVA
3.) Reagan , not so much for his policies or for his presidency but for his persona and integrity.
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" what a phenomenal speech.
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1.) Thomas Jefferson , Democratic-Republican Party hands down.
In more modern times
2. )FDR 1933-1945 12 Years
look at hw low he kept National Debt during his presidency 33 -45 - Then look at the debt 5 years after he left office (it soared).
Total employment during Roosevelt's term expanded by 18.31 million jobs, with an average annual increase in jobs during his administration of 5.3%.
Thank God and FDR for the TVA
3.) Reagan , not so much for his policies or for his presidency but for his persona and integrity.
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" what a phenomenal speech.
Scoot,
You may want to double check your natioanal debt story on FDR. The national debt, rose from $22billion to over $258 billion during FDR's administration :
06/30/1945 258,682,187,409.93
06/30/1944 201,003,387,221.13
06/30/1943 136,696,090,329.90
06/30/1942 72,422,445,116.22
06/30/1941 48,961,443,535.71
06/29/1940 42,967,531,037.68
06/30/1939 40,439,532,411.11
06/30/1938 37,164,740,315.45
06/30/1937 36,424,613,732.29
06/30/1936 33,778,543,493.73
06/29/1935 28,700,892,624.53
06/30/1934 27,053,141,414.48
06/30/1933 22,538,672,560.15
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1.) Thomas Jefferson , Democratic-Republican Party hands down.
In more modern times
2. )FDR 1933-1945 12 Years
look at hw low he kept National Debt during his presidency 33 -45 - Then look at the debt 5 years after he left office (it soared).
Total employment during Roosevelt's term expanded by 18.31 million jobs, with an average annual increase in jobs during his administration of 5.3%.
Thank God and FDR for the TVA
3.) Reagan , not so much for his policies or for his presidency but for his persona and integrity.
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" what a phenomenal speech.
Scoot,
You may want to double check your natioanal debt story on FDR. The national debt, rose from $22billion to over $258 billion during FDR's administration :
06/30/1945 258,682,187,409.93
06/30/1944 201,003,387,221.13
06/30/1943 136,696,090,329.90
06/30/1942 72,422,445,116.22
06/30/1941 48,961,443,535.71
06/29/1940 42,967,531,037.68
06/30/1939 40,439,532,411.11
06/30/1938 37,164,740,315.45
06/30/1937 36,424,613,732.29
06/30/1936 33,778,543,493.73
06/29/1935 28,700,892,624.53
06/30/1934 27,053,141,414.48
06/30/1933 22,538,672,560.15
Thanks for setting the record straight on FDR Cabin!
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1.) Thomas Jefferson , Democratic-Republican Party hands down.
In more modern times
2. )FDR 1933-1945 12 Years
look at how low he kept National Debt during his presidency 33 -45 - Then look at the debt 5 years after he left office (it soared).
Total employment during Roosevelt's term expanded by 18.31 million jobs, with an average annual increase in jobs during his administration of 5.3%.
Thank God and FDR for the TVA
3.) Reagan , not so much for his policies or for his presidency but for his persona and integrity.
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" what a phenomenal speech.
Scoot,
You may want to double check your natioanal debt story on FDR. The national debt, rose from $22billion to over $258 billion during FDR's administration :
06/30/1945 258,682,187,409.93
06/30/1944 201,003,387,221.13
06/30/1943 136,696,090,329.90
06/30/1942 72,422,445,116.22
06/30/1941 48,961,443,535.71
06/29/1940 42,967,531,037.68
06/30/1939 40,439,532,411.11
06/30/1938 37,164,740,315.45
06/30/1937 36,424,613,732.29
06/30/1936 33,778,543,493.73
06/29/1935 28,700,892,624.53
06/30/1934 27,053,141,414.48
06/30/1933 22,538,672,560.15
Thanks for setting the record straight on FDR Cabin!
Debt cannot be discussed in a vacuum, It need to be tied to GDP or GNP.
Because of the depression, the national debt as a percentage of the GNP had doubled under Hoover from 16% to 33.6% of the GNP in 1932. While Roosevelt balanced the "regular" budget, the emergency budget was funded by debt, which increased to 40.9% in 1936, and then remained level until World War II, at which time it escalated rapidly. The national debt rose under Hoover, and held steady under FDR until the war began.
FDR Was able to maintain a flat 40% during terrible economic times right up until the war all the while struggling with the inherited 33.6% from Hoovers administration.
Here is a good graph depicting 1933-1945.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Debt1929-50.svg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Debt1929-50.svg)
Here is a good read -
http://www.amazon.com/National-Debt-FDR-Clinton/dp/0786406224 (http://www.amazon.com/National-Debt-FDR-Clinton/dp/0786406224)
Roosevelt spent 12 years in office and had an enormous impact on America. He took office in the depths of the Great Depression. He immediately called Congress to special session and declared a four-day banking holiday. The first "Hundred Days" of Roosevelt's term were marked by the passage of 15 major laws. Some of the important legislative acts of his New Deal included:
* Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC)- hired more than three million men to work on various projects.
* Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA)- used the Tennessee River to provide electricity for the depressed area.
* National Industrial Recovery Act (NIRA)- created the Public Works Administration to provide aid to cities for construction and the National Recovery Administration to help businesses.
* Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)- corrected abuses which led to the stock market crash.
* Works Progress Administration (WPA)- hired many people for a variety of projects including in the arts.
* Social Security Act - Created the Social Security System.
Just to name a few..
1.) Jefferson
2.) FDR
3.) Reagan
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C4...so you're saying/indicating Debt soared because of WW2 expenses...and loans...?
..TM7
TM,
I'm not saying anythig other than what I wrote. I was pointing out the factual error in Scoots post. He said, and i quote:
"2. )FDR 1933-1945 12 Years
look at hw low he kept National Debt during his presidency 33 -45 - Then look at the debt 5 years after he left office (it soared)."
TM,
Are you saying that my facts on what really happened to the debt under FDR is wrong? if so, please correct me by posting the correct numbers.
Thanks
C4
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1.) Thomas Jefferson , Democratic-Republican Party hands down.
In more modern times
2. )FDR 1933-1945 12 Years
look at how low he kept National Debt during his presidency 33 -45 - Then look at the debt 5 years after he left office (it soared).
Total employment during Roosevelt's term expanded by 18.31 million jobs, with an average annual increase in jobs during his administration of 5.3%.
Thank God and FDR for the TVA
3.) Reagan , not so much for his policies or for his presidency but for his persona and integrity.
"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" what a phenomenal speech.
Scoot,
You may want to double check your natioanal debt story on FDR. The national debt, rose from $22billion to over $258 billion during FDR's administration :
06/30/1945 258,682,187,409.93
06/30/1944 201,003,387,221.13
06/30/1943 136,696,090,329.90
06/30/1942 72,422,445,116.22
06/30/1941 48,961,443,535.71
06/29/1940 42,967,531,037.68
06/30/1939 40,439,532,411.11
06/30/1938 37,164,740,315.45
06/30/1937 36,424,613,732.29
06/30/1936 33,778,543,493.73
06/29/1935 28,700,892,624.53
06/30/1934 27,053,141,414.48
06/30/1933 22,538,672,560.15
Thanks for setting the record straight on FDR Cabin!
Debt cannot be discussed in a vacuum, It need to be tied to GDP or GNP.
Because of the depression, the national debt as a percentage of the GNP had doubled under Hoover from 16% to 33.6% of the GNP in 1932. While Roosevelt balanced the "regular" budget, the emergency budget was funded by debt, which increased to 40.9% in 1936, and then remained level until World War II, at which time it escalated rapidly. The national debt rose under Hoover, and held steady under FDR until the war began.
FDR Was able to maintain a flat 40% during terrible economic times right up until the war all the while struggling with the inherited 33.6% from Hoovers administration.
Here is a good graph depicting 1933-1945.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Debt1929-50.svg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Debt1929-50.svg)
Here is a good read -
http://www.amazon.com/National-Debt-FDR-Clinton/dp/0786406224 (http://www.amazon.com/National-Debt-FDR-Clinton/dp/0786406224)
Roosevelt spent 12 years in office and had an enormous impact on America. He took office in the depths of the Great Depression. He immediately called Congress to special session and declared a four-day banking holiday. The first "Hundred Days" of Roosevelt's term were marked by the passage of 15 major laws. Some of the important legislative acts of his New Deal included:
* Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC)- hired more than three million men to work on various projects.
* Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA)- used the Tennessee River to provide electricity for the depressed area.
* National Industrial Recovery Act (NIRA)- created the Public Works Administration to provide aid to cities for construction and the National Recovery Administration to help businesses.
* Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC)- corrected abuses which led to the stock market crash.
* Works Progress Administration (WPA)- hired many people for a variety of projects including in the arts.
* Social Security Act - Created the Social Security System.
Just to name a few..
1.) Jefferson
2.) FDR
3.) Reagan
Scoot,
Your facts are wrong on what happened to the debt under FDR. Under his leadership, it soared. Thats the point. Your post is just factually inaccurate on that point. Its not that big of a deal. Yes, I agree, there are many other factors that need to be taken into account in order to assess the overall financial health of the country at that time.
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Ronny Ray Gun without a doubt gentelman.
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This is a very subjective call - best at what? I think the times make the man more than the other way around. FDR is called great because of the things that happened and the stage of the country's development, but I think he was very destructive - he prolonged the depression and gave us a government guaranteed to never stop growing (Marshall won the war). Clinton was probably the luckiest (and the biggest perv) and W might have been the most unlucky. Just to keep things a little light, let me propose a few more.
Best lover - JFK, although many presidents are in the running on this one.
Best liar - many would say Nixon, but he couldn't be, he got caught.
Best drunk - Grant.
Best pistol shot - Jackson. Yeah, he stopped one, but he had enough confidence to compete.
Best tobacco spitter - Lincoln. I don't know this for a fact, but he chewed almost all the time.
Best compromiser - Buchanan. He postponed the Civil War for a few years.
Best horseman - Taylor. Again, I'm just guessing, but he was a career officer.
Best big game hunter - TR, hands down.
Best psyche case - Wilson. If the guy was alive today he would be on meds at the very least.
Best artillery captain - Truman. Will there ever be another? Maybe best piano player too.
Best communicator - it pains me to say it, but it may well be Obama. Face it, the kid is slick.
So who do I think is the all around best? Calvin Coolidge, for all the things he didn't do. Worst all around? Papa Bush. This complete zero took the gift Ronald Reagan left him and simply squandered it.
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Washington; It's been all downhill after him.
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I think Jefferson was a good president. He believed in limited government and all the right things. He also had the Louisiana Purchase which doubled the size of our nation and opened the door to the west and eventually we got the Oregon territory from Lewis and Clarks expedition. Opened up the route to settle Texas and later the Southwest and California. He had the Constitution built (Old Ironsides) and 2 other ships to stop the pirates in present day Libia from raiding our commerce ships. Washington is probably tops, but did he really handle the "Wiskey Rebellion" properly?
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Ditto Jefferson. Washington was between a rock and a hard place. No president can allow any bozo with a musket to fly his own flag. That's the whole dilemma. That's why the south was right.
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In my opinion, the great Chester A. Arthur. Took over early on when Garfield was killed. Looked around, saw that no much needed doing, so that's what he did--at least that's how they tell it around here (about 5 miles from where he was born). Most of these other guys come to office with big ideas, then when they implement them they screw up the works. Chester A. was smart enough to leave well enough alone. ;D
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I don't agree with Keynesian economics, but at least FDR refused to just give out welfare money. He was chided for not doing so by far left liberals and commies. He said if he created jobs they could do, they would feel and act better about themselves by earning the money. He said if you just hand out money, people would become dependent on the government and not on their own hard work. Not like today.
No matter who is president now, or who is in control of congress, when our national debt reaches $20 trillion (over $14 trillion now) our nation will be bankrupt, and the Federal side of our government will cease to exist. We will become 50 different countries. Remember the Soviet Union and their bankrupt state. It split up into about 20 different countries. We cannot keep spending more that we take in taxes. The point of no return is $20 trillion. There will be no national military, no welfare, no food stamps, no social security, nothing, because we can't afford it. All federal tax money will have to be used to pay the interest ONLY on the debt, nothing left over. China, Japan, and others will want their money.
This is either a plan by the NWO socialists for this to happen, or no one really cares or believes it to be true.
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In my time,Ronald Regan,Gee I wonder why nobody said anything about Jimmy Carter........Just a joke guys don't bomb me........PD
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I don't agree with Keynesian economics, but at least FDR refused to just give out welfare money. He was chided for not doing so by far left liberals and commies. He said if he created jobs they could do, they would feel and act better about themselves by earning the money. He said if you just hand out money, people would become dependent on the government and not on their own hard work. Not like today.
No matter who is president now, or who is in control of congress, when our national debt reaches $20 trillion (over $14 trillion now) our nation will be bankrupt, and the Federal side of our government will cease to exist. We will become 50 different countries. Remember the Soviet Union and their bankrupt state. It split up into about 20 different countries. We cannot keep spending more that we take in taxes. The point of no return is $20 trillion. There will be no national military, no welfare, no food stamps, no social security, nothing, because we can't afford it. All federal tax money will have to be used to pay the interest ONLY on the debt, nothing left over. China, Japan, and others will want their money.
This is either a plan by the NWO socialists for this to happen, or no one really cares or believes it to be true.
Don't forget fannie and freddie debt as well as FDIC guarantees and other off balance debt as well as unfunded liabilities. We are just over 96% GDP and the true debt is more like 70 Trillion. We are already bankrupt. Their plan is to pay off the debt with worthless dollars. Of course that will rob the wealth of all ordinary people. They print the dollars and pay debt. Your dollars and dollar denominated wealth becomes worthless as the dollar is trashed. In this way the steal your wealth to keep the government going. Thanks democrats and republicans!
FDR was the dictator-in-chief and introduced many socialist programs still around today. His heavy handed command and control of the economy is what made the great depression so great and last so long.
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In my time,Ronald Regan,Gee I wonder why nobody said anything about Jimmy Carter........Just a joke guys don't bomb me........PD
I will.
Ronald Reagan talked the good talk, but he spent more on social programs than Jimmy Carter.
But most presidents are judged more on what they say than what they do, because it is requires little effort.
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In my opinion, the great Chester A. Arthur. Took over early on when Garfield was killed. Looked around, saw that no much needed doing, so that's what he did--at least that's how they tell it around here (about 5 miles from where he was born). Most of these other guys come to office with big ideas, then when they implement them they screw up the works. Chester A. was smart enough to leave well enough alone. ;D
A good man. We would be better off to send every president on an extended four year vacation. If we had done that, no wars, no indebtedness, no prison overcrowding, lower or no taxes; but what would we argue about.
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who was the best depends on what an individual wants..as to my favorite.. ronald reagan made me believe in the U.S. again ,he also inspired me to hope an believe..
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About Carter - he was (and is) a world class numskull, but it is a fact that his administration (late '79 - early '80) changed US policy toward the Soviet Union from appeasement to confrontation - about 20 - 25 years too late in my opinion. Seeing that go down convinced me that people whose names we never hear call the shots in this country, and probably quite a few others too. Note that Reagan was kept on a very tight lease in terms of domestic policies.
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Simple answer....
Best Ever? Hasn't been elected yet. We're still waiting.......
Scott B
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Simple answer....
Best Ever? Hasn't been elected yet. We're still waiting.......
Scott B
The question posted is "Who Was America's Best President". The key word is "was", as in the past tense. The selection can only come from the current and or former presidents.
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Simple answer....
Best Ever? Hasn't been elected yet. We're still waiting.......
Scott B
The question posted is "Who Was America's Best President". The key word is "was", as in the past tense. The selection can only come from the current and or former presidents.
Fair enough....
Are we talking about President's that were actually elected, or those placed in power?
Scott (which kind of Prez) B
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Absolutely right on Abe and FDR. They usually rave about Wilson too. It's hard to check this guy out since so many of our history books are propaganda. He was installed to pass the Federal Reserve Act, which Taft tried to do but couldn't. Then up pops the war. Wilson proclaimed "strict neutrality" but worked hard to get us in, then informally used vigilante mobs to browbeat ordinary citizens and whomp up on Blacks, Germans, Irish, anyone who wouldn't toe the line. Trying to sell the League of Nations, he completely changed course and said the war was simple economics and there should be a no-fault peace. Some of the things he said were good, but he constantly changed his position and had a way of viciously attacking anyone who had agreed with him earlier. His only motive was to make himself look good. It didn't help when a massive stroke totally incapacitated him and his wife started doing his thinking for him, but now it looks like he had several small strokes which made him completely crackers. He would turn red, scream and cry if he couldn't get his way, just about ordinary political turf war type stuff. A real nut case.
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Simple answer....
Best Ever? Hasn't been elected yet. We're still waiting.......
Scott B
The question posted is "Who Was America's Best President". The key word is "was", as in the past tense. The selection can only come from the current and or former presidents.
Fair enough....
Are we talking about President's that were actually elected, or those placed in power?
Scott (which kind of Prez) B
The question does not distinguish on that point so I would have to assume all are included. That would even include the current president even though he is not a natural born US citizen, which technically disqualifies him from holding the office. Nonetheless, he is still president and therefore included in this assessment even though he is a Muslim.
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I'd go with John Adams(Prez No#2)
He had to be on heck of an American to beat Thomas Jefferson.....twice! And Thomas Jefferson was a great American!(Even though TJ's Republican Party was reportedly getting a lot of support from European countries...)
Scott (Alien and Sedition Acts) B
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I like Ike.
:D
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Close. Teddy Roosevelt at the turn of the century. In my lifetime clearly Ronald R.
Theodore Roosevelt was another of those 'big government' usurpers of power. He vastly extended the reach of the federal bureaucracy.
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Thomas Jefferson.....maybe the smartest man that ever lived.
Thomas Jefferson's fame was due to authoring the Declaration of Independence. Several years ago a convention of American historians rated Jefferson and Kennedy as the two "most overrated" Presidents. Jefferson nearly bankrupted the country as he did his own fortune. Worse he was responsible for the destruction of the US Navy and the weakening of the Army that resulted in America's near defeat in the War of 1812.
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I don't know about all those who lived before me, but in my lifetime I remember Harry Truman. He stood up against anti-semitism on May 14th, 1948 by signing a statement recognizing the state of Israel as an official Jewish State.
I liked Harry too but then again he refused to end the Korean War thereby establishing a precedent that lead to Vietnam, Iraq, a a bunch of other no win confrontations. Would we respect a football coach who always fought for a draw instead of going for a decisive victory.
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Jeffersons thought was with no standing army and no navy, the people couldn't be "controlled" by the federal government. The army I could understand with the people as a malitia. I do dissagree with no navy, since that was why we got involved in the War of 1812. He did expand our nation west.
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Washington; It's been all downhill after him.
Got to agree with this one.....
Been a stairway to corruption ever since.
Scott B
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In my lifetime Regan.
What about Nixon? If you take away Watergate he was a great Pres. look at all he did for foreign policy. He also bombed NV back to the peace table. Nixon was a great Pres. Back then they all did stuff they should have gotten in trouble for, Kennedy, LBJ, Ike, FDR and Clinton "Nixon Now More Than Ever"
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Nixon cut Nasa's budget drastically. They were going to Mars by 1986 and have a permanent moon-mining base by now. Never happened. He opened up China, which is killing us today. He also signed into law the OSHA bureauracy, Medicaid, food stamps away from commodities. Nixon was better than the alternatives, but not a great president. Eisenhower and Reagan were probably the two best in my lifetime. I still stick with Jefferson even though he had his flaws, he didn't want a big central government.
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It's been said that LBJ drew up the plans for the Great Society, but Nixon poured the cement.
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While FDR removed the gold standard and confiscated the peoples gold, Nixon put the nail in the coffin that was the only check left on government growth when he ended Bretton Woods and ended all ties to gold. This was the last nail in America's coffin as no democratic government can be trusted to put itself on a fiscal diet when it's only desire is to give the free goodies to get past the next election. Being the worlds greatest debtor nation in all of worlds history did not come by accident.....and it will end badly; this is the lesson of history.
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I like Ike, as well as Washington.
In his farewell address he warned of a serious danger looming in this country. He called it the Military Industrial Complex.
I don't doubt his concern and his sincerity.
At that time his warning was based on the best information he had available.
But I personally think he misunderstood the origin of the threat facing us. It was much worse than he knew. It is still present, destroying us to this day.
Ike and Washington were unmatched in integrity, courage, charisma, and patriotism.
These are the kinds of men worthy of holding the highest office in our country.
Reagan came close, and is the favorite in my lifetime.
Someone said Obama was a slick communicator. Give me a break.
I will have to admit though, he is a gifted teleprompter reader.
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The best Harry Truman
the worse the one we have in the white house now.