Graybeard Outdoors (GBO Reloaded)
Rifle and Optics Forums => Remington Firearms => Topic started by: Bart Solo on December 15, 2011, 09:43:01 AM
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I visited my local Walmart the other day and saw an entry level 700 in 7MM. Its price was significantly lower than similar rifles I have seen elsewhere. Question, are Walmart Remingtons the same as Remingtons you can buy elsewhere for more, or does Remington cheapen its Walmart rifles?
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Yup a Remington is a Remington. An SPS is an SPS whether a gun dealer sells it or Wally world does. All I've seen there are the same models I see in gun shops but yeah the prices do seem lower at Wal-Mart.
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This question has been ask before. GB is right. A Remington is a Remington no matter where you buy it. My opinion is the gun shops started this story to make people think if they bought a gun from Wally World they would get junk. :-\
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only thing the walmart guns arent sps models. There an adl model with a blind mag and a plastic trigger guard. If you can live with that there a heck of a deal.
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Walmart sells SPSs too. In fact they can get anything Remington makes. I prefer the ADL myself.
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My thought is to buy one, replace the stock with a BDL stock from Midway (a McMillian maybe) and then buying the Brownells kit for converting an ADL to a BDL. On the other hand I might just buy a CDL in Walnut. Buying the CDL might be cheaper, but I would have more fun tinkering.
If I wanted to go cheap, MidwayUSA sells the Remington BDL stock for about $84 plus shipping.
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Unless it changed some Walmarts will order you anything you want.
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My thought is to buy one, replace the stock with a BDL stock from Midway (a McMillian maybe) and then buying the Brownells kit for converting an ADL to a BDL. On the other hand I might just buy a CDL in Walnut. Buying the CDL might be cheaper, but I would have more fun tinkering.
If I wanted to go cheap, MidwayUSA sells the Remington BDL stock for about $84 plus shipping.
Can I do something like that? I am also looking at the cheap Remi 700 at Wally-World for $397. Blind mag. So I wanna go and buy a Boyds Thumbhole for a 700 BDL and go to Cabelas and get this convert kit. Will this work???? Thats would be awesome!!!!! http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Firearm-Components/Magazines-Clips%7C/pc/104792580/c/104717880/sc/104442480/Kwik-Klip-Remington-Model-700-Clip-Conversion-Kit/741478.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-firearm-components-magazines-clips%2F_%2FN-1100238%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104442480%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104792580%253Bcat104717880%26recordsPerPage%3D108&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104792580%3Bcat104717880%3Bcat104442480 (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Firearm-Components/Magazines-Clips%7C/pc/104792580/c/104717880/sc/104442480/Kwik-Klip-Remington-Model-700-Clip-Conversion-Kit/741478.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Fshooting-firearm-components-magazines-clips%2F_%2FN-1100238%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104442480%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104792580%253Bcat104717880%26recordsPerPage%3D108&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104792580%3Bcat104717880%3Bcat104442480)
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This is my Walmart 700ADL in .30-06. Stock from ebay and conversion parts from Brownell's. It's highly accurate.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Woodsman1956/Remington/100_0451.jpg)
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My question is can i get a Wally World blind magazine Remi 700 and go buy a Boyds Thumhole stock for a Remi 700 BDL, then go and buy the Kwik Klip conversion kit and make it all work and have a really cool looking and hopefully accurate Remi with a detatchable box mag?????? Can anyboby tell me if it will work?????
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It will work, but I'd avoid the Kwik-Klip.
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Swampman is right as usual when it comes to Remington. Yes you can do exactly what you want to do. I would suggest you look at the Brownell conversion kits. They seem to be complete. They even have an instruction video. It seems to be a pretty straight forward conversion. The cost is about $139. That plus the cheap Remington BDL stock ($84) means you can take a blind magazine 700 and gain the advantages of a BDL for about $222. I don't think the Boyd's stock is much more. I suspect that if you are going to upgrade your stock to something better than the SPS synthetic you would be well advised to spend the additional $139.
I don't know what the Kwik-Klip conversion kit is, but Brownells doesn't call it's kit Kwik-Klip and they say they are using genuine Remington parts.
UPDATE: I looked up the Kwik-Klip conversion kit sold by Cabelas. It isn't all that well regarded, but I haven't had any experience with it. Why don't you buy one and report.
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BTW, I really like the $397 price. It is hard to buy a 700 barreled action for that money. You can sell your used stock on E-Bay and keep your costs down. Personally, I am thinking about upgrading to something in the Bell and Carlson medalist line or maybe going all in and buying a McMillian stock, glass bedding the action and free floating the barrel. That would give me a good addition to my safe and a great backup in the fall.
I think Swampman's wood stocked Wally World 700 is pretty cool too.
It's funny, but about half of the guns in my hunting safe are Remingtons. I hadn't realized that until I looked. I am not even a Remington fan.
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Swampman is right as usual when it comes to Remington. Yes you can do exactly what you want to do. I would suggest you look at the Brownell conversion kits. They seem to be complete. They even have an instruction video. It seems to be a pretty straight forward conversion. The cost is about $139. That plus the cheap Remington BDL stock ($84) means you can take a blind magazine 700 and gain the advantages of a BDL for about $222. I don't think the Boyd's stock is much more. I suspect that if you are going to upgrade your stock to something better than the SPS synthetic you would be well advised to spend the additional $139.
I don't know what the Kwik-Klip conversion kit is, but Brownells doesn't call it's kit Kwik-Klip and they say they are using genuine Remington parts.
UPDATE: I looked up the Kwik-Klip conversion kit sold by Cabelas. It isn't all that well regarded, but I haven't had any experience with it. Why don't you buy one and report.
I would do that. Except I would like a Detatchable Box Mag. All the Brownell stuff is drop floor plate. Is there any other alternative detachable box mag manufacture???? Without paying a couple hundred dollars or more for a kit.
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The latest rendition of the Kwik-Klip is center feed and works like a charm . I did the trigger on a Whelen last fall , that was equiped with it and I was impressed ! You can find them by Googling Kwik-Klip .
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I would do that. Except I would like a Detatchable Box Mag. All the Brownell stuff is drop floor plate. Is there any other alternative detachable box mag manufacture? ??? Without paying a couple hundred dollars or more for a kit.
Having had both a hunting rifle with a noisy detachable box magazine and a hunting rifle with a floor plate, I think I prefer a floor plate. That said, if the detachable box magazine works quietly go for it, especially since the Kwki Klip is about $50 bucks cheaper.
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I 'm pretty sure if you buy the Boyds stock you can also buy the conversion kit to change a ADL to a BDL on Boyds website as well.
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eBay is a good source for conversion parts. 24hourcampfire is another.
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Check out the number of people looking for 788 magazines. How did all those people loose them? You'll find out someday too. Stick with the BDL mag.
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Swampman,
That is a neat looking rifle!
What kind of recoil pad is that?
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I converted my father in-laws Remington model 700 ADL in 22-250 Remington, with NEW Remington SPS stock and NEW Remington SPS conversion kit all bought off EBay for a lot less then Brownells.
I strongly suggest this conversion since I dislike blind magazines for myself and my father in-law loved it too. Able to dump all cartridges easily after a hunt and the floorplate doesn't open on recoil.
yooper77
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Swampman,
That is a neat looking rifle!
What kind of recoil pad is that?
It's the Remington factory pad. The CDL stocks come like this from the factory.
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if your going to convert it to a floor plate gun your probably better off bucking up for the sps from the gitgo.
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ive got 3 non cdl guns that wear cdl stocks. Ones a 06 identical to yours but mine started as a sps. You can pick them up for under a 100 bucks if you watch and they sure dress up an sps or any rem rilfe. two of mine were bdls one 8mag and one a 7mag, and i dont care for that blocky stock. the cdl and the classics were hands down remintons best stocks. Classic stocks are hard to come by though. Wish i had one right now! another way to really dress up a stainless sps is a LSS stock. Ive got a 300 win mag sps with one and its imo one of the sharpest looking guns i own.
This is my Walmart 700ADL in .30-06. Stock from ebay and conversion parts from Brownell's. It's highly accurate.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Woodsman1956/Remington/100_0451.jpg)
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What is the WalMart website for Remington rifles?
I found something last night but they all had scopes included. They were 700s however. A few years ago I stumbled on a WalMart site that sold about everything in a 700 or 7. Probably just missed it last night.
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Yawn! . . . .
If you want a Remington 700 BDL, go to a couple of large gunshows and find one made in the 1980s for a bargain price. Why are you going through all of this rigamarol? You are trying to reinvent the wheel.
Mannyrock
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This is my Walmart 700ADL in .30-06. Stock from ebay and conversion parts from Brownell's. It's highly accurate.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d34/Woodsman1956/Remington/100_0451.jpg)
That is one dang nice looking gun. 8)
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I just went and looked at the Walmart 700. It is pretty nice for $400. Its nice and light and shouldered great. The fit and finish looked good. Not the best like a CDL but it was definitely good enough. The bolt worked smoothly, and the cheap stock was not as flimsy as I thought it would be. Unfortunatly it had a trigger lock an it so I was not able to test the X-Mark Pro trigger. Im seriously thinking about this gun!!!!! Maybe Ill buy it Saturday!!! If anybody has one of these or knows someone who does please tell us about it!!!
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I have one and it's shoots tiny groups.
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It seems to me that if you want a wood stock that resembles the old ADL stock you can go to Boyds (http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/PRAIRIE-HUNTER-REMINGTON-700-ADL-LONG-ACTION-p/700-045.htm (http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/PRAIRIE-HUNTER-REMINGTON-700-ADL-LONG-ACTION-p/700-045.htm)) about $120 but are backordered right now. They have a plain stock but will put the checkering (http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/category-s/202.htm) (http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/category-s/202.htm) on it for a reasonable price $55. I am going to get one for my old .30-06 700 ADL whose stock cracked years ago and I replaced it with a synthetic one. Just want a rifle wearing wood and that .30-06 will just look better with a walnut stock on it.
Chief
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You'll find one cheaper on eBay.
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I sure don't know and have wondered the same thing. I'm sure someone will chime in since I've seen the Wallymart Model 700s mentioned on the forum.
Savage has disclaimers on their website for specific models that state that certain retailers specify the deletion of features such at the Accutrigger and to check for those features before buying.
Lance
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Yawn! . . . .
If you want a Remington 700 BDL, go to a couple of large gunshows and find one made in the 1980s for a bargain price. Why are you going through all of this rigamarol? You are trying to reinvent the wheel.
Mannyrock
yup, thats what i did, very happy.
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Yawn! . . . .
If you want a Remington 700 BDL, go to a couple of large gunshows and find one made in the 1980s for a bargain price. Why are you going through all of this rigamarol? You are trying to reinvent the wheel.
Mannyrock
Another good option is pawn shops. I bought my wife a nice older 700 adl in 30-06 last summer, I sold the Nikon that sat on top, traded my retired neighbor some fire wood to refinish the stock, bought some leupold bases and rings, and topped it with a Leupold 4x that I traded into for a couple of venison roasts(that is a long story), all in all I'm into the rifle for $230 dollars, and my wife killed her biggest buck to date with it last November. Oh, and not to get off topic the Walmart rifles are true Remington's and shoot like Remingtons should, very accurately.
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I visited my local Walmart the other day and saw an entry level 700 in 7MM. Its price was significantly lower than similar rifles I have seen elsewhere. Question, are Walmart Remingtons the same as Remingtons you can buy elsewhere for more, or does Remington cheapen its Walmart rifles?
I think Remington "cheapens" one of the 700 models sold in Walmart by making a matte blued, blind magazine, "Tupperware" stocked rifle with an integral trigger guard that I've never seen for sale anywhere else. Our Walmart here in town has one of these on the racks now. I don't care for the stock on this. I don't like the look or the feel. I doubt if the actual barreled action is "cheapened" in any way. It's just the stock that is used that I don't like.
So, if I bought one of these, I'd be inclined to do something similar to what Swampman did and drop the barreled action into a CDL stock with a BDL bottom metal kit from Brownells. But by the time I did all of that, I could just go ahead and get a CDL for about the same or less.
Or, I could do what I did.... I paid $400.00 for an N.I.B. condition 721 in .270 that is fast becoming my all-time favorite centerfire rifle. It's totally satisfactory as-is. Maybe a hinged floorplate would be nice, but I grew up having to run rounds through the action of a 336 to unload, so doing the same in a bolt gun doesn't bother me much. Blind mag is therefore not a dealbreaker for me.
That blind mag 700 at Walmart might be a heck of a deal for someone who likes it as is, but it wouldn't be for me because I don't like that stock that is used. I dislike it so much that I would be changing it. That makes that cheap rifle not so cheap when I can get something that I really like as issued on the pre-owned market or simply save a bit more and buy a CDL and live happily everafter.
JP
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Blind magazine gun are ADLs and have been longer than most on here have been alive most likely. They are not limited to anyone place and in fact all of them I've ever owned came from gun stores not from Wal-Mart where I've never bought a firearm.
I'm really not familiar with the plastic trigger guard as part of the stock mentioned. All of the centerfire Remington rifles I've owned have separate metal trigger guards tho certainly an ADL action would lend itself to an integral trigger guard as part of the stock.
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The Walmart ADL does not have an intergal triggerguard. It is plastic as are all ADL triggerguards these days. It has a blind magazine box as do all ADLs. It's plastic stock is made from exactly the same material that all Remington plastic stocks are made from.
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Graybeard, I agree with you. Everybody talks about a Walmart deal and then complains about their LGS not carrying every make and model firearm, scope, gun part they gotta have yesterday. It cost me more in the long run but it makes me feel good to walk in my favorite LGS and have someone call me by name and fills me in on the latest gun news, or offer to loan me a shotgun if mine has a broken extractor, so I won't miss that dove shoot, or call me me and let me know they just took in on trade a certain S&W wheelgun I have been looking for, or throwing in a gun rug and a box or two of shells (after we made the trade), or sell/ship a gun for me and only charge me the transfer fee. My LGS is 27 miles away and the closest Walmart is 16 miles away. I know the exact mileage of each because I drive by Walmart on the way to my LGS. JMO
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It cost me about twice as much to buy from the gun shops in my area as it does to buy from Walmart.
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I live 65 miles from the closest WalMart and three miles to a nice gunshop.
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charles, which one do you support as far as firearms, gun related products? Not trying to make a point or change the content of this thread, just curious. I apologize to everyone, if I got off track.
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if you buy or own one a remington 700 you might look in to seeing why they are going off an inadvertently killing maiming people remington has been sueded repeatedly they should have recalled all there 700 rifles. the military has had problems with them to .i suggest that if you have one change out the trigger mecanizim and safety.
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You might want to check out the facts on what your posting. It's just a bunch of foolishness.
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When folks mess up they tend to blame the gun . If you spend time in gun shops or ranges one thing you will notice is people put their finger on the trigger when they should not. That's why most ranges won't let you load unless the weapon is pointed down range and why when humans are down range you cant touch the gun. I would ask , we all know mechanical safties are not to be trusted so why were the guns that hurt people pointed at them in violation of the first safety rule of gun handling ? If shooters did the safe thing Remington could have the most dangerous trigger ever made and no one would get hurt. In some of these cases it almost funny but the guns can't be made to fail a second time , hummmm ?