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H&R Talk => Huntsman and Sidekick Muzzle Loaders => Topic started by: Zeak on November 27, 2012, 10:13:47 AM

Title: Delay with Triple 7 pellets
Post by: Zeak on November 27, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
I have been using 2  50gr. Pyodex pellets in my 50cal Hunstman, switched to Triple 7 pellets. I was getting a short delay when firing Triple 7. The Hunstman has the factory breach plug with primer carriers. Would Triple 7 loose work better? I went back to the Pyodex for now. Don't know why Triple 7 doesn't put a little black on the pellet? Zeak
Title: Re: Delay with Triple 7 pellets
Post by: SHOOTALL on November 27, 2012, 10:21:18 AM
Do they have a bevel or rounded edge on one end ? If so put that end in first. Or try the primers for muzzle loaders instead of standard shotgun primers .
Title: Re: Delay with Triple 7 pellets
Post by: handirandy on November 27, 2012, 10:42:00 AM
I have experienced hangfires with 777 pellets if theyare exposed to the  slightest bit of moisture.  Loose 777 or Blackhorn solved the problem.
Title: Re: Delay with Triple 7 pellets
Post by: hillbill on November 27, 2012, 01:08:06 PM
i looked at sum t7 ive had in a locker for awhile,loose powder, it showed sum clumping. real black powder in same locker was fine.
Title: Re: Delay with Triple 7 pellets
Post by: bikerbeans on November 30, 2012, 02:28:18 AM
My son is shooting two (2) 777 pellets in a 50 cal huntsman with the banned site breech plug and 209 fed primer.  No hangfire and good accuracy with a Harvestor 50/44 crush rib sabot and a 300 grain Sierra 0.4295" jacketed bullet.  Never tried the 777 pellets with the factory plug and carriers.
 
BB
Title: Re: Delay with Triple 7 pellets
Post by: OldSchoolRanger on November 30, 2012, 04:36:53 AM
I have been using 2  50gr. Pyodex pellets in my 50cal Hunstman, switched to Triple 7 pellets. I was getting a short delay when firing Triple 7. The Hunstman has the factory breach plug with primer carriers. Would Triple 7 loose work better? I went back to the Pyodex for now. Don't know why Triple 7 doesn't put a little black on the pellet? Zeak
The "black" (powder) that Pyrodex uses to assist in ignition, would make T7 dirtier, which was the selling point (cleaner) for T7, when it came out.

+1 on what bb said.  If your going to use T7 pellets get the banned site plug, for better ignition.
Title: Re: Delay with Triple 7 pellets
Post by: Busta on November 30, 2012, 06:39:03 AM
I have been using 2  50gr. Pyodex pellets in my 50cal Hunstman, switched to Triple 7 pellets. I was getting a short delay when firing Triple 7. The Hunstman has the factory breach plug with primer carriers. Would Triple 7 loose work better? I went back to the Pyodex for now. Don't know why Triple 7 doesn't put a little black on the pellet? Zeak

The OEM breech plug is not reliable with Triple Se7en Pellets. There are other options that will make it reliable. The OEM plug will work reliably with Triple Se7en LOOSE, but not Blackhorn 209.
 
If they would have designed a better breech plug from the get go, these rifles would be as popular as any other, and still in production.
Title: Re: Delay with Triple 7 pellets
Post by: Zeak on December 03, 2012, 06:24:36 AM
I got the banned site breach plug and the T7 pellets work fine now. When I dry fired a couple of primers I could tell the difference in the fire that came out of the barrel. Problem solved!!! Zeak