Graybeard Outdoors (GBO Reloaded)
H&R Talk => H&R Shotguns => Topic started by: Maritime Storm on February 26, 2014, 09:42:01 PM
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How rounds of standard target loads can once expect to fire through a H&R Pardner before the hinge wears loose?
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I don't think anyone can answer this at least not with any continuity.
BUT good news is IMHO its nothing you need to worry about...
This one is a early 1960's gun it was pretty loose before I refit the forend. Its been used by myself for about 15 years now. maybe 10-15 boxes of ammo..
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This one is a lot older '20's?? Its shot ALLOT!!
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CW
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I have no idea, but like any hinged mechanism a lot depends on whether it has proper maintenance. Kept clean and properly lubed it will last a lot longer than one that is neglected.
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How rounds of standard target loads can once expect to fire through a H&R Pardner before the hinge wears loose?
OK, I'll take a stab at putting a numerical answer to the question posed above. Cleaned occaisionally and properly maintained I'd say somewhere in excess of 250,000 to 500,000 rounds of "standard target rounds"....<><.... ;) ;D
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I'm shooting Trap with mine, wondered how I could reasonably expect it last. I do take good care of my equipment.
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Keep in mind the metal used in todays guns is way better than what was used in the old guns . Machine work is better also in that now we know where to radius to keep from cracking etc.
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I have a 1926 .410 that was my grandpa's first gun, then my dad's first gun, then my first non-airgun gun. ;) I alone have fired more than 10 boxes through mine. I also have a 12 ga. that was from circa 1932 that's had a unknown round count that is still going strong. ;)
The .410
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Found a pick of the 1930's one. I stripped it and reblued it last year and stripped the wood and refinished also.
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I have seen plenty of 1930-50 era guns that have just taken on that brownish patina on the metal, but had very little actual wear. I did have a 1930 Stevens SXS 410 that had one barrel fired so much that the sear eventually wore uneven and had to be replaced, but the hinge, barrel etc were all fine. I would say you will have to replace the internals long before you need worry about latch & hinge.
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my oldest h&r shotgun was very well
used when i got it from a pawn shop
around 1980-1981. i haven't kept up
with the rounds of different types that
have been through it. it's as tight as
any of the h&r products i have of any
age. it also closes and locks crisper
that any i have. just like a safe door,
no exaggeration.
like the rest have said, keep the pivot
area clean and lubed. i use anti-seize,
or choke tube lube (basically the same)
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Your shoulder will wear out before the gun does. ;D
Spanky
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If me ole rememberer's working right today, I seem to recall they advertized the latch as self tightening in the ole days.. claimed it would get tighter with use as it wore in..The hinge pin can be removed and turned 180 degrees to the unworn side ,would seem to me to give it a whole nuther life.. :-\
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i think the self-tightening comes in
on the old spring-tensioner retained
forearms. i don't think it would work
on the screw retained forearm.
anyway, having to deal with a loose
pivot i believe is a non-issue, in my
lifetime anyway. (as long as it's kept
clean and lubed)