now think agout this, my son has a 20ga tracker2 with a williams peep on the rear, and it just kicks butt. its plenty for deer at 100 yrds, and the recoil is not bad at all. IE: my son and wife use it, and dont complain about the recoil. i liked it so well i went out and got the 12ga tracker2 for myself. i liked it, but i sold it off, ALOT more recoil, and the same range, yes i know thw 12ga hits harder, but a winchester part. gold sabot will knock down any old deer, and saves the shoulder. i just dont want you to count out the 20ga, cause its a great 100 yrd deer gun.