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Offline jrfrmn

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30-06 hand loads
« on: October 26, 2006, 08:04:56 PM »
Can someone tell me what is the absolute hottest round and the toughest bullit that can be loaded for the 30-06 rifle. Wy would this round not stop a charging G or B Bear? What action is best for hand loads? What load is best for autoloader?
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Re: 30-06 hand loads
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2006, 03:38:50 AM »
What stops a charging Grizzly or Black Bear is multiple shots right to the head or to a shoulder that smashes on through.  If you hit a shoulder and smash it you can sometimes turn the best away for follow-up shots but hitting a shoulder on a charging bruin is tough, so are head shots on moving critters.  However, that being said, the largest Grizz on current record was taken, I believe, by an Alaskan Encon hunter who used a 7mm mag Browning semi-auto.  He put all five into the bruins head at a pretty close range and then followed-up with a second mag full just to be sure.  This bruin, by the way, had killed and partially eaten a hiler who plinked it with 5 38 rounds from a snubbie - they found all 5 38 rounds had failed to penetrate the heavy pelt. 

The 06 can be loaded, or purchased at levels equalling or surpassing the 7mm mag but you need either a hot 180 gn or hot 190 gn load, at the minimum, to do that.  200 or 220 gn slugs might be better.  One bullet I know of from a 300 Win mag shot through the shoulders of a medium sized Grizz at about50 yds - it was a solid brass slug from Barnes, I believe.  However, all this being said I would hope thet J.J. Hack, who has tremendous experience hunting bear could chime in with some advice that could help.  HTH.  Mikey.

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Re: 30-06 hand loads
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2006, 04:42:49 AM »
I've never shot a bear of any sort so this is just conjecture and reading.  Hot rounds and dangerous game shooting do not go together.   Speed is not what kills.  Its shot placement.  A well-built, well-placed, heavy for calibre bullet that will burrow thru, breaking bones and disrupting the nervous system is what is needed.   

That said, I would imagine that several tons of grizzly bears have been killed with a 30-06 but whatever cartridge you elect to use, I would suggest that you be so well practiced with it that the mounting of the piece, safety manipulation, target acquisition, and trigger control would be subliminal.

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Re: 30-06 hand loads
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2006, 08:07:51 AM »
 if the recoil is enough to knock you out of thr bears path ,you wont WANT to pull the trigger again ,so where will you be then?  With a WOUNDED BEAR!