Thats why I almost fell out of my chair. I thougt I was the only one that would do such things. But the nieghbor is just one step away from a tree hugger so I wont be sharing that trick with him. I was the guy with the duck once. It is funny, but the park ranger didnt think so. You can't reel one of them in and keep it a secret, they make a racket. Have you ever tryed to pull a hook out of a pissed off Mascovy with a park ranger breathing down your neck? You try to say your sorry while you are trying darn hard not to get bit by a flapping big duck, and trying not to laugh. This happened when I was about 14 in a family picnic type park. I had forgotten about it untill I read that post. Not making fun of it, or you at all, just had a moment of total recall, is all. It would probaly be a hole lot of fun,what by the way is a good rat rod anyway? OH yeh this is airguns not fishing so I will stop now. Good shooting to all D.C.