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Offline backwoodsboy

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first time bear hunter needs some help
« on: November 07, 2006, 02:29:20 PM »
okay so me and some buddies all got our bear tags this year, usally they sit right undernieth the deer tag looking back at me with a lonely face, but this season we decided what the hell lets put em to use! so my question to you is how do most of you hunt bears in ny, i know baiting is out of the question, but i may have the opportunity to hunt in vt for a bit. but just any suggestions on tactics espeacially would be very appreciated, and remember your talking to a rookie so any tips or comments are on gear are good to!
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Offline Mikey

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Re: first time bear hunter needs some help
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2006, 03:33:23 AM »
backwoodsboy:  Good Luck to ya.  I don't know if you can hunt over bait in Vermont but I think that is about the best way to hunt Black Bear in the east.  They are pretty, as in very, elusive and catching one in your sights is not been all that frequent, unless you catch them foraging or feeding.  When I see them it is usually by happenstance, after I have stepped in bearscat a couple of times, and they have skedaddled pretty quickly. 

However, don't be fooled by the sad face on the hunting license. Black Bear will attack if cornered.  They do not give you good targets.   Black Bear are on record as attacking humans more often than any other bear and their attacks more often result in human fatality than with other bear.  You are going to be hunting a carnivore and predator. If you are on the ground be prepared for the ferocity and methods of a bear attack!  Go well armed!  Be prepared for a 'rush' during which the bear may charge, running low to the ground and very fast.  Bring a hunting buddy as a backup and train yourselves to hunt in teams so you can both shoot if necessary without hitting each other (no joke). 

Hunting bear is not like hunting bambi, although depending on many different circumstances it could easily turn out to be quite similar if you are in a stand.  HTH.  Mikey.

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Re: first time bear hunter needs some help
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2006, 05:45:52 AM »
"You are going to be hunting a carnivore and predator. If you are on the ground be prepared for the ferocity and methods of a bear attack!  Go well armed!  Be prepared for a 'rush' during which the bear may charge, running low to the ground and very fast.  Bring a hunting buddy as a backup and train yourselves to hunt in teams so you can both shoot if necessary without hitting each other (no joke)." 

Sure sounds like a joke to me!  Black bears will sooner run away than charge.  Mighty few recorded attacks considering their wide range throughout North America. 

As far as hunting them in New York, I don't think there really is any method.  If you get one, it is pretty much due to luck and hunter skill has very little to do with it.  I would bet that the vast majority of bears shot in New York were by hunters hunting deer and just happened to have a bear come by their deer stands.  The rest were probably shot by hunters who were lucky enough to hunt an area where they were known to be feeding, most likely near garbage dumps. 

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Re: first time bear hunter needs some help
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2006, 05:22:06 AM »
i use a womans tampon soaked in anise or bannana extract. i keep them in film canasters when i get to a spot with bear sign i hang them on a limb. look for an area with a lot of rocks flipped over or a place with lots of food source. beech nut or accorns. they also love farmers corn fields. just spend some time looking for sign. good luck.
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Re: first time bear hunter needs some help
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2006, 08:06:36 PM »
Bear in NY are either in the Adirondaks or the Southern Tier.  Two different areas completely.
In the Adirondaks, beech trees are a good food source.  You should be able to identify a beech ridge by the color of the leaves in the fall.  Other than that, the remaining grasses on the slopes.

The Southern TIer look for crops and crop damage.  Bears love corn and other crops.  You might call the DEC to see if any farmers have complained of crop damage and if they have the number of the farmer.  You just might find a hunting spot.  Oaks, beech, and orchards are also food sources.  From Binginham west along the Penn. border ihas a good population.

Don't let anyone scare you about bears.  They are more afraid of you than you think.  They will run at the snap of a twig because they are a food scouce for bigger bears.  A wounded one is a different story though.  I watched slap the crap out of a bait barrel last spring when hit.  He was a little upset.   I have hours of video showing just how skidish they are.

It used to be in the Adirondaks that people staked out trails leading to the dumps.  I have pictures of the Old Forge dump with 13 bears in it with a sow that probably weighed in excess of 800 pounds.  Her belly almost dragged on the ground and  it was like the parting of the Red Sea when she walked into the dump.  When they closed the dump and went to covering it daily, the bears moved into town and raided bird feeders ad such.  One of the biggest was killed doing so in a guys yard.

Unless it has changed, baiting is not allowed in NY.
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