CZ Bobwhite SxS: 20 or 28

[Graybeard]

Bad info, that hasn't been the case on any factory choke tube installation I've ever heard of. Back in the days when Winchester first brought out choke tubes some folks retrofitted them into other guns not originally made for choke tubes. Then the buldge did happen some times.

But I've never seen it with factory installed tubes and for sure it's NOT the case in the CZ Huglu guns.

[32WINSPL]

Graybeard;
               Thanks for your rapid response. I've been trying to locate the article I had read but no luck. It said that for the 28 gauge Bobwhite, the barrels O.D. was something like 0.660" for most of the length and near the muzzle end it widened to around 0.720" or so to accomodate the screw in choke tubes. I cannot recall the exact figures but it was something like this. Graybeard, you have one of these 28 ga. Bobwhites and you are saying that the barrel outside diameter does not change from chamber to muzzle have I got this correct? Or does it change the .060" toward the business end but that it is not noticable to the naked eye? You input is greatly appreciated.


                                                                                         32WS

[Graybeard]

I traded mine off but no it did NOT have any increase in diameter near the muzzle.

[popplecop]

No its not noticeable.  Have to be looking for it to see it.  I sure like mine (20ga & 28 ga)  The 28 is a delight to carry all day and it is a good shooter.  i wish that 28" bbls had been an option.  Manuf. seem to think we have to have short bbls. on SxSs, 20 does have 28" and I would have taken 30 if available.  Anyway I like both of mine, lota field use and they don't get babyed.

[32WINSPL]

Gentlemen;
                Thank you much taking the time on this minor detail. I think you've cleared up any doubt I may have had.

                                                        Best regards and good hunting,
                                                                 32WS

[Bullseye]

I have a Ringneck 20 ga and every one I looked at including mine has a bulge in the choke tube area of the barrel.  You do not notice it when sighting down the barrel, but it is noticable if you look at the gun from the side.

I really like this gun, I squirrel hunted a lot with it.  It has 26 inch barrels and is just a plain joy to carry in the woods

[Graybeard]

Hmm, maybe I'm just blind or not very observant. I don't own one rat now but have owned several and danged if I've seen any buldge. You guys are making me wonder if I'm just blind or that none observant of my own guns.

[Bullseye]

Well Graybeard, based on the post I just read from you on another forum about sight radius on a pistol, I would say you are blind or do not see to good.  By your own admission of course.

[Graybeard]

Well guys I played with another of them today, this one the DeHaan import not the CZ import but same gun. It was a 20 gauge with 30" barrels and I saw no enlargement at the muzzle end. Now mind you I wasn't looking specifically for it since I had kinda forgotten this thread until now BUT dang it I did look the gun over good as I almost brought it home and still might. But if it had ANY flare at all it sure was so minor I wasn't able to see it. Now at 30" out I should be able to as that's where my vision begins to clear up.

It's only my close up vision that is horrible I have excellent distance vision and I did have my reading glasses on while doing the close examination.

[Bullseye]

Graybeard, since you had your reading glasses on I thought I had better look at mine again to make sure I was not talking out of my you know what.

My 20 does have a bulge.  You cannot see it when sighting down the barrel, but if you look at it from the side you can see it.  The barrel measures .705 till it gets close to the back of the choke tube, .760 right behind the choke tube and .782 around the choke tube.  I also measured my Benelli and it also tapers to a larger diameter at the choke tube, but for some reason the point at the back of the tube does not seem to stand out.  I was going to measure the 870's but they were too far back in the safe.

Now to retract some of my original statement, I was originally looking at this gun in a 12 gauge and the bulge really stood out. even when sighting down the barrel.  I was at the gun store tonight and looked at the 12 gauge again because of this discussion and the bulge is much worse compared to the 20.  The 12 is obvious but you really have to look for the bulge on the 20 since you do not see it when sighting down the barrel.  Maybe the smaller bores are even better.

Does not much matter to me whether it is there or not since I cannot see it when sighting down the barrel.  I think these are a good quality and nice looking SxS for the money.

[Graybeard]

I called them back and told them to hold the DeHaan for me. So tomorrow or Saturday it will come home with me. I'll put on my reading glasses and do some measuring for sure. This will be my fourth of these Huglu made guns and for sure I never noticed any buldge on any of them. Had .410, 28 and 20. If it's there I have no clue how I completely missed it. But then I am pretty much blind up close without reading glasses. But dang it out that far where the end of barrel is when shooting I should have been able to see it as my vision clears there.

Oh well, maybe that's why I missed so many targets with them, that buldge I couldn't see affected my swing and threw my timing off. Yup that's it. I knew it couldn't have been me missing.

[CallaoJoe]

I've got the 20 ga Bobwhte with 28" barrels, and yes you can see a slight bulge for the choke tubes.  About the same for my citori, and other Browning shotguns.  Not too noticible, but definitely there.  BTW...  I have three Browning's with invectors, all were made in the 80's....

[32WINSPL]

Well goll darn it, so there is a bulge. I'll just have ta pick one up and see for my self. Thanks gentlemen, a very interesting topic for sure.   

                                                                    32WS                                                           

[Ptarmigan]

There is a slight bulge at the end for sure on the 20's and 28's, but it is not that noticeable.  Besides I understand black is a very slimming color and with those black chromed barrels its just hard to see.  Those fashion designers and shotgun manufacturers must know something after all.  Since CZ America is run by a woman maybe this was accounted for.

By the way from what I am told chicks dig barrels with bulges.  Should make that shotgun purchase easier to sell to wife or significant other as justification.

[Graybeard]

Yup it's there, I can clearly see it on my newer DeHaan 20 ga. SxS but for sure I never noticed it on the 20, 28 or .410 CZ imports I had before it. Dunno why but I didn't.

[Bullseye]

Graybeard

Glad you saw it.  Now you can concentrate on going on that big handgun hunt instead of going to the eye doctor for some new reading glasses.

[Graybeard]

Yup. I did my last range session today. Have all four handguns I'll be taking down ready. Two scoped guns and two iron sight guns. One more day and a wake up.