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Easiest Time for Martial Law Since 1878...
« on: November 12, 2006, 02:39:10 AM »
Interesting development from Rome on the Potomac....essentially repeal of posse commitas and a new ease to declare martial law....fyi....TM7
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http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_95980.asp


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Re: Easiest Time for Martial Law Since 1878...
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2006, 06:23:28 AM »
This is just what the sheeple want. The government to protect us from ourselves. ??? >:( >:( >:(

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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2006, 03:10:17 PM »
The article made it sound as if it was all Bushs doing. The sad thing it was the congress.

Jun 22, 2006: This bill passed in the Senate by Unanimous Consent. A record of each representative's position was not kept.

The House was almost as bad.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h2006-510
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2006, 05:56:15 PM »
Maybe if Gov. Blanco had done her job after Katrina we wouldn't be posting about this now.  The same people who cry about the feds not doing enough, or fast enough, seem irritated now.  Too bad.  Now Bush (or a future President) can act when the state Gov can't or won't make a decision to restore order and save lives.

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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2006, 07:36:20 AM »
Scary ain't it?

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2006, 09:04:12 AM »
Can anybody explain this? Quoted from the article re. the Posse Comitatus Act:

The 1878 Act, which reads, "Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both," ...
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2006, 02:39:42 AM »
This has been going on for a long time.  One way is by the creation of SWAT teams.  This is the militarizing of the local police.  Swat team usage appears on the evening news most every night.  Helmets, vest, gas, and other military equipment is now standard issue.

Another good example is what happened at Ruby Ridge and Waco.

This is just legitimizing what has already occurred.  It's part of big brothers "Master Plan", and has been occurring in fasist dictatorships world wide in their attempt to control the masses.........it's the basis of communism. 
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2006, 06:29:01 AM »
Maybe if Gov. Blanco had done her job after Katrina we wouldn't be posting about this now.  The same people who cry about the feds not doing enough, or fast enough, seem irritated now.  Too bad.  Now Bush (or a future President) can act when the state Gov can't or won't make a decision to restore order and save lives.

Exactly... this is no conspiracy against the people, no "Big Brother Master Plan".  This is a response to folk complaining about the Feds not doing enough during Katrina.  Now they can... for better or worse as the case may be.

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« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2006, 05:52:26 PM »
RE: TM7's post "I can't readily agree with this idea. Why would the failure of local government in connection with federal government result in more jeopardy to the hallmark of being an American--i.e. personal freedom....it is illogical.? So there must be another motive by the leaders. "

Illogical?  Inept, corrupt and timid state and local government authorities failed to plan for the Katrina disaster, and then they lacked the leadership to take the actions needed to prevent the loss of life and property when it happened.  Both Nagin and Blanco should be on trial now for much of Katrina's aftermath.  Both of these petty politicians sat on their butts, letting things go south, failing to act until it was too late, and then they waited for the feds to come and bail them out and blamed the feds for the outcome.   President Bush offered federal troops and federalized national guard soldiers to assist early on, but Gov Blanco refused, fearful that she was being upstaged.  Bush had no legal standing to send in troops without the consent of the governor. The result was that New Orleans became an open city, every man for himself.  Now the President has the authority to intervene to prevent the loss of life and property and restore order when the state and local governments won't.  Blame Nagin and Blanco for putting us in jeopardy.