Author Topic: which kicks worse 460WM or 50bmg (Read 2909 times)

dcnewyork · « **on:** January 02, 2006, 10:41:09 AM »

I kow that the 50 has more energy, but the guns are usualy pretty heavy. the 460 weatherby is usualy built off a regular rifle like a mark v, not exactly a lightweight but not as heavy as a big 50. also the muzzle brake on the 50 seems to work pretty good. so i just want to know which kicks or hurts or pushes teh shooter the most.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** January 02, 2006, 11:04:22 AM »

A .50 BMG with muzzle brake has about as much recoil as a .308 Winchester, compared to a 10lb .460 Wby at around 100ft lbs recoil shooting a 500gr bullet at 2600fp. But I'd sure hate to pack a 30-50lb BMG around with me!!! :roll:

http://www.riflebarrels.com/articles/50calibre/mcbros_50_bmg_action.htm

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 02, 2006, 11:43:17 AM »

Recoil is not the problem, concussion is. I had 2 50 BMG's and I had to get rid of them. I got head aches shooting them.

msorenso · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2006, 02:37:49 AM »

With out a muzzel break, the 50 bmg would be a sure winner. Someone on here has fired on with out the break, I can't remeber but they had a pretty sore arm for awhile to say the least! :-D

victorcharlie · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2006, 02:47:34 AM »

A lot depends on how the gun fits you and how you mount it. I had one built on an ar15 lower........it was to short and not much fun to fire.

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2006, 03:52:58 AM »

Quote from: msorenso

With out a muzzel break, the 50 bmg would be a sure winner. Someone on here has fired on with out the break, I can't remeber but they had a pretty sore arm for awhile to say the least! :-D

I posted a while back about shooting my 50BMG without the muzzle break, I thought I messed up my shoulder. I will never do that again. One time was enough for me. :eek:

Redhawk1 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2006, 03:56:01 AM »

Quote from: victorcharlie

A lot depends on how the gun fits you and how you mount it. I had one built on an ar15 lower........it was to short and not much fun to fire.

I had one on a ar15 lower also. It was an 18 inch Ferret, and you are so right about it not being fun. I also had a Hesse 50 BMG with a 30 inch barrel that was a blast to shoot. I just did not want to travel 2 hours just to shoot it.

victorcharlie · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2006, 05:17:37 AM »

I had one that fit an AR lower and used a 1/4 inch rachet to screw in the bolt........assembled it weighed 41 lbs..........about 5 rounds was all I wanted at one time! It looked like an anti tank weapon, belched fire, had terrible muzzle blast and quite frankly, I was scared of a round leaving the range.......was supposed to go through a man hole cover at 1000 yards......just wasn't fun for me.........

I'd really like to try one of the $6000 Barrett autoloaders.......I hear they're sweet!

nasem · « **Reply #8 on:** January 03, 2006, 06:41:28 AM »

well, I think the 460 wm also comes with a built in muzzle break, I think it drops its recoil by over 55%... so your looking at about 45-55 ft-lbs of recoil (kinda like a 338 RUM without the break)

now for the big fifty, I couldn't tell ya, I never read much about them since the price of thier rifles scare me away

warf73 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2006, 09:54:43 PM »

No clue what it's like to shoot a 50BMG but I do own and shoot a 460WBY in a Weatherby Mark V (took a nice buck with it this year also) and the kick is very light compared to other rifles I've shot.

The 500gr. bullets once touched off you know that you have fired a BIG bore rifle. The recoil isn't a KICK but a strong shove.

If you want a firearm to kick the shyt out of you, shoot a Mossberg Utile Mag with 3.5" Turkey loads now that is pain.

Warf

jro45 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 06, 2006, 03:09:04 AM »

I would say the 700 Nitro kicks the worst.

msorenso · « **Reply #11 on:** January 06, 2006, 03:22:36 AM »

How much worse than a 460 weatherby?

nasem · « **Reply #12 on:** January 06, 2006, 09:40:34 AM »

I don't think a human being can shoot a 700 nitro without a muzzle break... I honestly think it will break a sholder (we are talkin about 1000 grain bullet being thrown at 2700 fps.... ouch)

msorenso · « **Reply #13 on:** January 13, 2006, 07:31:16 AM »

Not trying to be smart but the 700 nitro throws a 1000 gr at 2000 fps.

nasem · « **Reply #14 on:** January 14, 2006, 06:21:18 AM »

you know what, your right, its not 2700, its around 2100 FPS ..... I was thinking about the FPS of the .50 cal when I wrote that, sorry..

But still, 1000 grains at 2000 FPS, thats some massive recoil

slave · « **Reply #15 on:** January 14, 2006, 07:17:14 AM »

warf73 and I agree on one thing. The 835 dose pack a punch. After looking at some of the numbers it is no wonder. With the fed 31/2" #4 it is shooting a 2oz load at 1300fps. Not as heavy or fast as some of the .50 rilfes but it is not a heavy weight. I have shot a few guns in my day and I do not remember any thing that was much worse than my ultra mag.

Gun design must pay a huge role in what we precive as recoil.

msorenso · « **Reply #16 on:** February 06, 2006, 05:17:05 AM »

Not sure how to ask this,
but for those of you that have shot biiger stronger calibers, 416, 458,470,500,577,600,700.. How does the 375 rum compare.. I don't fell the 375 rum is all that bad!

JEFF WARD2 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 17, 2006, 06:46:37 PM »

i have to jump in on this the 835 ulti mag with 3.5s are a true kicker..
it is my favorite turkey gun...i put a pro diamond scope on it because it shot to the right quit a bit.and i will tell ya after 5 shots with it, it hurt like hell, my whole head was busted up after finaly getting it where i wanted it.. i havent shot anything that kiked that hard, and i love recoil but like i said after 5 shots i dreaded pulling that trigger..
but aint it funny how you never feel recoil while shooting at critters, i broke my back a few years ago and had to twist my upper back 180degrees to shoot a gobbler and didnt even realise i had shot untill i was holding that bird by the feet..if i would have been shooting paper i would have been back in the hospital..

Redstick · « **Reply #18 on:** May 08, 2006, 07:34:56 PM »

"The 500gr. bullets once touched off you know that you have fired a BIG bore rifle. The recoil isn't a KICK but a strong shove. "

About like hitting a wave on a boat!

jro45 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 14, 2006, 10:57:47 AM »

I've shot some 500 gr bullets at 2350 fps and the recoil wasn't that bad.

Crazy Horse · « **Reply #20 on:** March 19, 2007, 07:27:08 AM »

My 460 weatherby will kick your teeth loose off the bench but the 50 bmg with a good muzzlebrake kicks less than a 270. However the muzzleblast of the 50 is something to experence...