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10mm for Hunting?
« on: December 31, 2006, 05:02:29 AM »
I was just wondering if anybody has ever used a 10mm for hunting.  I know it has about as much power as a .41 Magnum but I would like to hear if anybody has ued one for hunting.  I would only hunt deer, or smaller animals with it but any input would be appreciated.  I am looking into purchasing one for defense and hunting.  Thanks fellas.
When an Army captain asked him for the direction of the line of retreat, Col Puller called his Tank Commander, gave them the Army position, and ordered: "If they start to pull back from that line, even one foot, I want you to open fire on them."
Turning to the captain, he replied "Does that answer your question?
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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2006, 08:14:27 AM »
Ive never shot anything myself but was present when to wild boar were killed by my buddy useing a 610 smith and it did a real good job. 200 grain turnacate nosed hard cast bullets gave complete penetration in both hogs.
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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2006, 11:29:05 AM »
Thanks, I appreciate it.  I'll keep looking.
When an Army captain asked him for the direction of the line of retreat, Col Puller called his Tank Commander, gave them the Army position, and ordered: "If they start to pull back from that line, even one foot, I want you to open fire on them."
Turning to the captain, he replied "Does that answer your question?
We're here to fight."
- Chesty Puller at Koto-ri in Korea

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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2006, 12:53:36 PM »
I love my witness 10mm with the double tap hard cast I have put down a few deer with authority.

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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2006, 04:22:47 PM »
I took a doe at 48 yards with my glock 20 using double tap 180 grain load,went through both shoulders exit wound was about the size of a quarter went right down in its tracks.

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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2007, 03:10:06 AM »
The 10mm is on the low side of 41 magnum power levels but will still cleanly take whitetail to 50 yds or so.  The 200 gn bullets hould really do well in hardcast with a flat nose.  For that matter, the 180 gn 3/4 jacketed slug for the 38-40s or the Keith style 170 gn swc should also work well. 

A bunch of years ago I necked down 45 acp brass to make a 10mm wildcat that I hunted and hsot silhouette with.  I cleanly took a couple of whitetail and a black bear with that caliber with the 170 gn swc. HTH.  Mikey.

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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2007, 06:07:01 AM »
thanks Mikey any info is helpful for me.
When an Army captain asked him for the direction of the line of retreat, Col Puller called his Tank Commander, gave them the Army position, and ordered: "If they start to pull back from that line, even one foot, I want you to open fire on them."
Turning to the captain, he replied "Does that answer your question?
We're here to fight."
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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2007, 06:23:17 AM »
One of the Funniest things I have seen in a while was Ted Nugent and his camera man  having an encounter with a Ring Tailed Cat in his box Blind.... "Look out.... bump, Bump, thump ....BOOOM !
10mm Glock ends the encounter.

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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2007, 03:53:04 AM »
the 10mm has intrigued me...

I would love to have a 6" longslide
there are some people that have made a G20 longside, costs about a grand to do...
info on glocktalk

STI used to make one, but no more
current production Kimber and Dan Wesson, both only 5" though

Fusion Firearms will be releasing a 6" longslide in about a month, cost around 2K
they will also be doing custom work
I have entertained doing my 1911 and would seriously consider it if I could get it done for a reasonable amount of money...


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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2007, 04:54:39 AM »
ccoker:  get yourself a 10mm slide.  That will allow you to interchange 10mm, 40 S&W and 357 Sig.  For a longer 10mm you can get a 6" match barrel from a couple of sources, but then I would look around for a compensator that will both allow youto hide that extra inch of barrel hanging out of the slide and dress up that piece for target work or whatever.  You can even keep it on the slide when you interchange to the 40 or 357 Sig.  It works and it is fun.  The barrels will probably cost you twixt $100 and 150 for quality barrels, a slide and parts probably another $200 or so, maybe a bit more.  You may need to work the ejector down a bit to get the 10mm slide to fit but gunsmiths can do that easily and you will have saved probably 1.5k out fo that 2K you were thinkin' about.  HTH.  Mikey.

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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2007, 06:31:45 PM »
alien319-  I have hunted whitetail with my G20L for the last two years and here are my impressions. 

First of all, PRACTICE IS PARAMOUNT.  During preseason, one needs to practice from the field positions that he/she will be shooting from.  This is, hands down, the most important thing to remember.  PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE.

Second, the choice of ammunition is also important for the ethical hunting with the 10mm.  I would suggest something loaded VERY HOT, such as DoubleTap (my first choice), Buffalo Bore, Georgia Arms or Reeds, or a good handload.  Keep in mind that if you are trying to decide on one of a few different loads, accuracy should be the deciding factor.  I personally use the DT 200gr XTPs but I think a good, fast 200gr (or heavier) flat nose hardcast would be sufficient, too.   

Thirdly, when I hunt with a pistol, at least this year, I used a tree stand with a shooting rest.  My own personal rule for hunting whitetail is NOT to take a shot at a deer without a solid rest.  That means no running shots and no standing, unaimed, unrested shots.  Not only will the stand help give you better locations but it will keep you elevated above the scent line of deer giving you a higher success rate.  Ground hunting (still hunting) can be really tricky if you have to stalk close to deer since being that close makes it inherently easier for deer to smell you.  I'll be purchasing a new "climber" stand before next season to pack on my back for my extended whitetail hunting hikes into the backwoods (armed w/ pistol only).  It just makes sense, at least for me.

As for the maximum range that a 10mm will WORK on deer... I would say that a 10mm w/ a 6" tube and hot loads could take deer at 100 yards with proper placement -- however -- you need to truly understand the difference in shooting 100 yards, breathing normally from a BENCHREST versus being freezing cold in tne field with a less than ideal rest and stance and a non-stationary target while out of breath! They are completely different.  I can shoot amazing groups at 50 and even 75 yards with my longslide from the BENCH at a range but wouldnt try those in the field.  I would probably try and limit myself to 20-25 yards with a less than ideal rest and MAYBE 50-75 with a PERFECTLY SOLID rest (which is rare in itself).  You need to think like a bowhunter.  Get close to make your shots effective and ethical.  Please.

Also consider that I've reworked my Glock trigger to weigh in at about 3 lbs and is extremely smooth.  Keep in mind that if you're not concentrating on the KEYS to shooting, the stock Glock trigger will fail you as a hunting piece.  My KEYS to shooting are: 

FRONT SIGHT - SQUEEZE - FOLLOW THROUGH - OFFHAND 60/40 GRIP - SURPRISE BREAK   

Remember: Aim small, hit small.

And there you have it.  Now practice up and go get yourself some venison.  :supergrin:




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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2007, 02:38:36 AM »
nicke10mm - that was an excellent post with extremely pertinent advice.  Thank you.  The different conditions you spoke to when hunting make all the difference between a successful shot and a miss.  I appreciate your sharing your insights.

The 10mm is a great pistol cartidge.  It has a goodly amount of wallop and will do the job for you.  I would like to see how she performs in a carbine barrel length.  Mikey.

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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2007, 04:15:41 PM »
Thanks Nicke10mm, that was great advice.  I guess I was forgetting that you should think like a bowhunter.  Thats great advice.  Bowhunters are successful at such short distances, so should handgun hunters. Thanks again to everyone that has replied so far.
When an Army captain asked him for the direction of the line of retreat, Col Puller called his Tank Commander, gave them the Army position, and ordered: "If they start to pull back from that line, even one foot, I want you to open fire on them."
Turning to the captain, he replied "Does that answer your question?
We're here to fight."
- Chesty Puller at Koto-ri in Korea

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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2007, 12:27:53 AM »
did you see the show where he took a cape buffalo with his 10mm. Now theres a case of being severly undergunned!!!
One of the Funniest things I have seen in a while was Ted Nugent and his camera man  having an encounter with a Ring Tailed Cat in his box Blind.... "Look out.... bump, Bump, thump ....BOOOM !
10mm Glock ends the encounter.
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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2007, 03:43:14 AM »
I my G20 I use 180gr bullets at about 1300 FPS

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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2007, 07:31:53 AM »
I was just wondering if anybody has ever used a 10mm for hunting.  I know it has about as much power as a .41 Magnum but I would like to hear if anybody has ued one for hunting.  I would only hunt deer, or smaller animals with it but any input would be appreciated.  I am looking into purchasing one for defense and hunting.  Thanks fellas.
I've carried my Glock Model 20 with Winchester Silvertips for deer but the deer weren't interested.  I have used the .41 Magnum S&W Model 57, 6 inch barrel, with 175 grain Silvertip on a deer and it worked fine, some 18 inches of penetration.  The 10mm lags some 100 fps behind in velocity but would still be perfectly acceptable. 

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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2007, 07:43:44 AM »
Thanks Mikey and alien....

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Re: 10mm for Hunting?
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2007, 01:32:24 AM »
just FYI, shot a spike back in '92 with my Delta Elite.  shot him quarteing away, behind the ribs and out his chest at 37 of my paces, I'm 6'4".  he fell over on the spot, cleaned out about 60 pounds of meat.

the load was a 200 cast over Blue Dot which I still use today. through my PACt Shooting Chrony, this clocks between 1120-1150.  extraction has never been a problem and cases/primers show no signs of excessive pressure.  load does not exceed manual and tends to be as accurate as I can hold it of the bench at 25 yards. (just as an aside, for between 80-100 bucks these days you can get a chrono - don't know why more folks don't have them)

based on this one experience, don't see why it wouldn't work reliably on medium game out to 50 yards.

never understood why this round didn't catch on.