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Offline sneekyhunter

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Bear in putnam county
« on: October 28, 2007, 04:30:37 PM »
I hunt mostly in putnam county behind my moms house,i was there today with my kids and they were playing outside on the swing set when i looked out the window and noticed sitting about 10 feet in the woods across the yard watching my kids was a big black bear. I went outside and made the kids go inside and started yelling at the bear and throwing sticks at it,it didnt seem to phase the bear at all.it just looked at me and then slowly turned around and walked away.The people up the street wont let there kids out because the bear is always in there yard and wont leave when they try to scare it away either.The other lady who lives down the road feeds it regularly and wont stop feeding it. im worried about it going after my kids or hurting someone.What should i do? I know what i would like to do.Thanks for your time...

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Re: Bear in putnam county
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2007, 02:31:53 AM »
sneekyhunter:  (1) They don't come into season until southern zone big game starts, so you can't legally shoot them until then.  (2) you can legally shoot them if you feel they constitute an immediate danger to your children (i.e., the bear was headed directly for my son, daughter, infant child, etc.). 

The neighbor who won't let his/her children out because the bear is always in the back yard must have forgotten how to notify the police or Encon - call the cops and they call encon to come get it and the whole thing gets written up in the local newspaper with pictures of them loading a drugged bear onto a trailer for transportation away to a distant place. 

The neighbor who feed it and refuses to stop is committing a crime and posing a danger to others by having the bear stay around.  You need to notify En-con or the local PD next time you see the bear to have it removed.  If that neighbor tells you or someone else the bear always comes along at about noon or something like that then that is when the cops and En-Con should be there. 

Putnam County, and other downstate counties are favorite feeding grounds for the black bear due to the incredible amount of edible garbage found in landfills, in garbage cans and right on back porches. 

You are right to worry about the bear going after your children.  It was not too long ago that a black bear took a nursing infant from its stroller, right in front of its horrified parents, and killed it to eat it.  The authorities recovered the remains after killing the bear and this happened literally right across the river from Putnam County, or possibly even in Putnam County. 

A black bear is a predator and one of convenience - the easiest meal is the best and if that means children who can't outrun it or stupid neighbors who forget that their hands smell like the food that was just placed down for the bear, it doesn't matter.  They will take and eat the easiest meal.  Call En-Con and keep your rifle handy.  Mikey.

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Re: Bear in putnam county
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2007, 05:05:26 AM »
There is NO bear hunting season in Putnam county and never was as long as I could remember.

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Re: Bear in putnam county
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2007, 06:48:52 AM »
I googled the article about the little girl being attacked in the catskills,
below is a copy of the article.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/19/national/main519186.shtml

(AP) A black bear that killed a 5-month-old girl in the Catskills may have mistaken the infant for food, not recognizing her smell as human, a state wildlife pathologist said Tuesday.

Various tests on the 155-pound male bear continued one day after he knocked Esther Schwimmer out of her stroller and carried her into nearby woods, as her mother shuttled her 4- and 2-year-old siblings inside.

The 3-year-old bear dropped the infant after witnesses began throwing rocks at it, but the baby died shortly afterward of severe head and neck injuries.

"Babies smell different. They have powders on them, milk on their clothes that may have been spilled," said Ward Stone, wildlife pathologist for the state Department of Environmental Conservation. "Maybe something was in the baby's diaper that smelled like milk."

Lou Berchielli, a DEC black bear specialist, speculated that the bear merely grabbed Esther because he was curious.

"We could come up with any individual quirky explanation that we want," said Lynn Rogers, director of both the Wildlife Research Institute and North American Bear Center in Ely, Minn. "It's possible, but unprovable."

The untagged bear tested negative for rabies, Stone said. He said he will continue to test for other illness, such as West Nile virus. Stone hopes to examine the bear's brain, though gunshots to his head — two of five bullets fired by police — make that difficult, he said.

Wildlife experts said residents should not fear a repeat of the rare tragedy. Throughout North America, the normally timid bears have attacked humans just 50 times in the last century, said Rogers, who holds a doctorate in animal behavior.

The attack on the infant represented only the second killing of a human by a bear in an eastern U.S. forest. In May 2000, an adult female bear mauled a teacher to death near Gatlinburg, Tenn., in Great Smoky Mountain National Park.

There were no witnesses, and no cause was determined. The remaining attacks occurred in remote parts of Canada and Alaska, where bears aren't accustomed to seeing people, Rogers said.

The bear that killed Esther had a mixture of wild vegetation and people food — even aluminum foil and fruit labels — in his stomach, showing it was familiar with people and their garbage, Stone said.

Past problems with bears in New York include basic nuisance complaints, such as bears going through garbage cans, tents or bird feeders, he said. Last August, a bear jumped through a screen door after smelling chocolate chip cookie ingredients in an Adirondack cabin, then knocked down the woman inside while trying to escape, Berchielli said.

"Bears are just big chickens," Rogers said. "They've survived by running without question. The littlest hound can chase the biggest bear up a tree."

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Re: Bear in putnam county
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 11:47:22 AM »
911 the local police - sometimes contacting a local ECO can be difficult -ie: having to leave a message on there answering machine - where as the police can contact alot quicker then you....

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Re: Bear in putnam county
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2007, 09:25:18 AM »
UPS wouldnt deliver my mothers packages today because the bear was in the yard drinking out of the bird bath and wouldnt leave.My cousin is a new york state trooper im gonna see what advise he gives me.