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Offline RemingtonMagnum

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The 450 Marlin
« on: December 27, 2006, 12:24:25 PM »
What are the specifics on the 450 marlin? Any real problems with the action? How accurate is the 450 in the Marlin rifles?

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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2006, 01:57:49 PM »
Check out marlinfirearms.com for the rifle data and hornady.com and buffalobore.com for ammo specifics.

Check out midwayusa.com to get an idea about ammo availability versus the .45-70.
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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2006, 02:43:06 PM »
Specifics....................OK it's a magnificent solution to a non-existent problem.
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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2006, 12:44:48 PM »
Specifics....................OK it's a magnificent solution to a non-existent problem.

Actually, its a nice solution to a minor problem.
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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2006, 01:43:10 PM »
OK, if the problem is not paying enough for brass, I'll agree.

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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2006, 04:02:26 PM »
Specifics: it is a GREAT round, especially for the non-handloader.  Accuracy in the Marlin rifles: mine will shoot cloverleaf groups at 50 yards and that's with an "old preacher" shooting it.   ;)  Rev

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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2006, 05:10:20 PM »
I've had a Guide Gun in .450M since they came out and have not had a single misfeed or any problem whatsoever.  I also have it in the BLR and in a bolt action and haven't seen any problems there either.  They can all shoot "one ragged hole" goups all day long.

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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2006, 05:38:09 PM »
Thanks for the imput and information. I can use what all of you said. Again Thanks Don.

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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2006, 12:57:05 AM »
Akpls what is your bolt gun in the 450 Marlin? Did you have it built or is it a factory gun? Very interested.

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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2006, 01:38:27 AM »
OK, if the problem is not paying enough for brass, I'll agree.

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OK, the brass costs more - over the life of the brass it will cost maybe $0.01 more per shot. 

For the person that doesn't reload the 450 LeverEvolution ammo offers a slight edge in performance over whats available for the .45-70 (including the LeverEvolution ammo) unless one wants to pay considerably more for .45-70 ammo from Buffalo Bore or Garrett.  Now we're talking about $25 versus $40 and more per box.

Granted, the introduction of LeverEvolution 450/.45-70 and PMC .45-70 ammo after the 450 was brought to market leveled the playing field considerably.

If one's tastes run to a Browning BLR the .450 is the only option.

The .45-70 is king when availability of factory plinking ammo and absolute top end ammo (or reloading for top end) are the considerations.
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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2006, 06:05:08 PM »
Akpls what is your bolt gun in the 450 Marlin? Did you have it built or is it a factory gun? Very interested.
It was built by Clark Custom on a Ruger 77 action about 4 years ago.  It came with a 22" Shilen barrel, laminated stock, etc.  I scoped it with 2 identical Leupold VariX III 1.75x6's and also have the NECG peep sight that fits the Ruger dovetail as back-up.  Right after I ordered mine the smith that they had building the .450M's left for elsewhere, but agreed to complete mine so I don't think they're doing them anymore.  I took it to Namibia fall of '05 and managed to bag a nice kudu with it.

A couple of photos if the links work:

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/akpls/ClarkCustom1.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/akpls/P9270051.jpg

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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2006, 06:50:20 PM »
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Coyote, have you run LEVERevoltions through an H&R single shot, or know of anyone. Jusy asking, cause for years i've been trying to find someone who has reloaded spitzers for the .450 H&R and found noone. With the new round, I have answer I hope. Does taking 25 grains off of the bullet weight and sliding in that conical really improve trajectory that much? Hornady shows a difference of 8+ inches at 200yds between the two .450 rounds. I'm not looking to MOA an elephant gun, pie plating would be good at that range.
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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2006, 02:30:42 AM »
sluggo -

I don't have a single shot of any kind (except black powder), so no, I haven't tried them in an H&R.  But yes, going to a spitzer can make a significant difference downrange.  They get nice velocity boost by using a lighter bullet, too.
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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2006, 06:33:42 AM »
Akpls That is a nice rifle and kudu. I would like one in a bolt gun witha remington or ruger action. But I would like the tang safty that ruger used to have.

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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2006, 06:58:06 AM »
sluggo -

I don't have a single shot of any kind (except black powder), so no, I haven't tried them in an H&R.  But yes, going to a spitzer can make a significant difference downrange.  They get nice velocity boost by using a lighter bullet, too.
I've reloaded the 300 gr. Barnes XFB for my bolt with fair results so far.  They can be pushed faster and farther, but accuracy seems to suffer a bit.  It's not really bad, just not as accurate as other .450M loads I've worked up.  I have plans to work more with it to see if I can tighten things up, but with the new LeverEvolutions now out it may not be worth the effort.  I've also tried spitzers out of my BLR, but a short magazine length hampers things there.

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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2007, 06:38:37 PM »
Had mine for about 5 years now.  No problems at all with factory or handloads. Picks 'em up and sets 'em down!!

After my bow, this is my primary hunting weapon.

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Re: The 450 Marlin
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2007, 10:28:09 AM »
I love mine.  It is accurate, reliable, and certainly powerful enough for anything in North America. I can't wait to try Hornaday's new LEverEvolution ammo in it.  Recoil can be a bit much for some people, but it is manageable. More of a push than anything.