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brass or steel ?
« on: January 04, 2007, 03:43:50 PM »
I see that some cannons are made from brass, and some are made from steel. Which is the better metal for cannons? What are the advantages of both?

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Re: brass or steel ?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2007, 03:47:09 PM »
Brass/bronze REALLY LOOKS GOOD.  As did the one I saw explode.  Steel is stronger.

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Re: brass or steel ?
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2007, 04:09:00 PM »
what type/grade of steel is best for cannons?

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Re: brass or steel ?
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2007, 04:43:01 PM »
A major advantage,for bronze is Bronze doesnt rust.., a definite bonus for marine use.

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Re: brass or steel ?
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2007, 05:31:06 PM »
what type/grade of steel is best for cannons?

It's best to buy known grades of steel, not only for confidence in its strength but so you know its characteristics, such as whether it welds easily.  1018/1020 (mild steel) is fine for reproducing barrels of antique guns as it is much stronger than bronze or cast iron and less brittle than cast iron.  Higher strength alloy steels like 4130/4140/4150 allow less material in the design but that should only be taken advantage of if you are engineering the design versus simply copying an old design.  Most ordinary stainless steels are less strong than 1018/1020, although if you are duplicating an old design, especially if it was originally cast iron, they should be strong enough.

The mild steels weld easily; the alloy steels require much more special handling when welding.  Most non-hardening stainless steels weld well.
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2007, 04:31:05 AM »
Well put, good summary.
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2007, 01:28:49 PM »
I use 1018 (Mild Steel) in my smaller pieces and 4340 in my bigger stuff. I've made barrels out of stainless and brass and bronze. As long as you make sure the tube is constructed correctly and practice safe loading/firing procedures you will be fine. Even a heavy cannon can be destroyed if the wrong powder or shot is used.

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Re: brass or steel ?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2007, 04:25:20 PM »
... even a heavy cannon can be destroyed ...

Just before graduation from Field Artillary OCS we were given a tour of the O'club at Ft Sill.  There was a full colonel there holding a party celebrating his LAST PAYMENT to pay for the 105mm howizter he blew up when he was a lieutenant!



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