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« on: July 25, 2004, 03:37:07 PM »
I read, in one of your postings, that you shoot a .500 BPE, and was hoping you may be willing to share some load data.  I own a Jos. Lang hammer double and would like to shoot a few rounds. But load data is somewhat scarce. I would like to use Swiss black powder, however, any loads will be appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2004, 10:02:04 AM »
jmauser,
    Just got back into town, sorry for the delay.  I shoot smokeless loads in my 500 as it seems to be regulated for the "light nitro" loads.  I don't have my data with me now but will bring it in tomorrow.  The original BP load for the 3" was 136gr black powder and a 340 gr copper tubed bullet.  Depending on how the powder bulks up in the case you may have to use one or more wads to fill the case and slightly compress the powder to get the correct overall length.  As I understand, Swiss powder does not like much compression but you still don't want to leave any space between powder and bullet, I would compress about 1/10", no more.  This should give you about 1900 FPS.  I cast bullets from a 340 gr NEI mould and size to .509. Wads are cut from 1/8" cork gasket material with a hand made punch.  If you can get a copy of Graeme Wrights "Shooting the British Double Rifle", excellent!  Also the quarterly "Double Gun Journel" has had some good articles in the last few issues. Please be sure the rifle can be shot before you do anything however, I wouldn't shoot a gun with Damascus barrels.  What brass do you have and what bullet are you planning to use?  I'll get you more tomorrow.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2004, 06:32:08 AM »
Back again. The loads I use are as follows.  All bullets are sized .509, CCI 200 large rifle primers, Bell brass.
340 gr round nose from an NEI mould, 66 gr IMR 3031.
400 gr round nose NEI mould, 62 gr IMR 3031.
All are loaded with a dime sized piece of toilet paper over the powder and a tuft of dacron about the size of a golf ball, uncompressed, over that followed by the bullet.  These loads group about 4 inches at 100 yds in my rifle.  Drop back about 4gr on the powder and work up.  Your first loads should shoot high and wide, left and right for the respective barrel and as you increase powder/velocity they should come to the center and lower until they converge.  Do not use heavier bullets, the 570 gr bullet is designed for the nitro express load and would be unsafe in a BPE.  You need to be sure your rifle was set up for the BPE loadings or Nitro express.  If not stamped on the flats under the barrels assume BPE. Generally the BPE rifles will have a low front sight where a NE will have a higher front sight but this is only a clue, not definative. The NE will also weigh about 10 - 11 pounds due to the heavier barrels and probably have shorter barrels, 24 inches or so, where the BPE barrels may be as long as 27 -28 inches and the rifle weigh a pound or two less.   As long as the rifle is in good shape the BPE load should do OK.  Just remember you can't go to Walmart for new barrels, do your research.

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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2004, 10:58:23 AM »
50cal, thanks for the info, the rifle is steel bbl'ed, in very good working order, 28" bbls, low front sight. By ser. # it was made approx. 1889. I am using Bertam Brass, and have not as yet determined a bullet preference. I get DGJ and have been reading the articles with great interest. Thanks again for the help.
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