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Bedding Help!!!!
« on: January 08, 2007, 06:19:48 AM »
Years ago when I was bedding a barreled action into a new stock, I used Prussian Blue to show what wood was to be removed.  That was 40 years ago and now I'm doing it again but what is there available now for this process.  I don't have any Prussian Blue anymore and don't know where I could buy any if it were still made.  Any useful tips would be appreciated.  Thanks

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Re: Bedding Help!!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2007, 08:02:49 AM »
Prussian blue is available from Brownells but I use lipstick.. Get the cheapest and brightest red you can find..(shows up great on many surfaces). I heat and mix is a bit of petroleum jelly.. Thin with descented turpentine..The kind I use is made for artist paints..Put in a plastic jar and screw on the lid. A hole in the lid will allow a brush entrance but keep out the crud.. Make the stuff fairly thick so it stays put. Good luck,..
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Re: Bedding Help!!!!
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2007, 02:37:49 AM »
Brownells also has Jarrow's inletting black. I use that, mainly because it's very convenient. Midway also sells some under their Miles Gilbert brand but it's way too runny to work. I had to add a bunch of our fumed silica to it, now it looks like the lipstick Gunnut uses.
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Re: Bedding Help!!!!
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2007, 10:18:30 AM »
HET GUYS THIS IS THE FORUM IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR. IM GETTING READY TO GLASS BED MY REMINGTON 700  REM 7MAG AND IM WONDERING IS THE FRONT OF FOREARM SUPPOSED TO BE TOUCHING THE BARREL? IVE HEARD YES & NO. THE RIFLES  BUILT IN 1962  . I SANDED THE BED SO THAT BARREL DOESNT TOUCH UNTIL 2 INCHES TO THE LUG. IM AT A POINT WHERE I NEED SOME ADVISE. ANY INFO WOULD HELP. THANKS
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Re: Bedding Help!!!!
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2007, 07:04:44 PM »
That's like asking which is better a chevy or a ford truck.. To bed the rifle the best I bed with the barrel free floated. Tried putting pressure on the barrel as the bedding material set up but it was just too inconsistant. Bedding can be added later if the rifle won't shoot as well as you need with the barrel floated. Generally speaking (IMHO!!!!!!) most rifles will produce their best groups with some pressure on the barrel. It dampens barrel vibration and allows the barrel to behave as if it were a shorter, stiffer tube. Most floated barrels will produce adequate accuracy with the least amount of fuss.. It's why most barrels are floated.. They are simply more sonsistant and easier to get to shoot decent! The 3rd bedding practice that almost unheard of is full length bedding. The barrel is bedded for it's full length. Properly done it can produce amazing consistancy.. I guess that is a first look.. What are you wanting to do? I posted my bedding technique sometime back..for what it's worth.. Perhaps a search will answer some questions.. Also please turn the all caps off,, it's akin to yelling on a thread.. thanks and welcome to GBoutdoors.
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Re: Bedding Help!!!!
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2007, 02:21:14 PM »
Ive gotten some info on another post. this is my plan , let me know what you think.  im going to the range this weekend. Im gonna shoot a couple groups as is then a couple groups with plastic shim (credit card) at the tip of forend. before I sanded stock , it looked like there was glass bedding right there, putting pressure on barrel.  Hey thanks for replying . Dont worry , im not gunna screw this gun up. If i get in over my head I ll take it in & pay some one to do it.
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Re: Bedding Help!!!!
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2007, 09:28:02 AM »
Good idea! You should be able to find out if there are problems. Be sure to keep your shims to no more than a third the diamter of the barrel. This will avoid jamming the barrel in the barrel channel and altering the prssure level it provides. You might try a few differing thincknesses of pressure pad as they will produce different pressures and that can affect accuracy...
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Re: Bedding Help!!!!
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2007, 12:45:23 PM »
Got some more info. instead of credit cards use foam strips. that way even pressure is put on barrel. Thanks for replys
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Re: Bedding Help!!!!
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2007, 05:28:31 PM »
I free float barrels for target, and match guns and for most hunting rifles (all are pillar bedded), but If I know the hunter is using a horse, bike, or four wheeler I recommend full length bedding.  All barrels we use are cryoed so pressure on the forearm isn't necessary at least none have needed it yet.