Greybeard , I was looking at the speer bullets and they make two 130 gr. bullets , one is what they call there( hot core) spitzer and a boattail spitzer one has a little thicker jacket than the other , have you or anyone else ever look into them ? It just seems like the 120's are a little light for penetration and the 140's a little heavy for good velocity !! Wish there was a 130 gr. nosler BT!!! tHEY JUST SHOOT sooo GOOD !!!!