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"new" Handi, Carbine style
« on: January 02, 2007, 08:10:44 AM »
I posted this on another site and thought you might like to see it too.  Quick has seen the other site and made his usual good quality input! Site  (I didn't use the "quote" function just for better readability!)

Recently, I bought a H&R Buffalo Classic (BC) frame and butt stock (from Haywire Haywood), with thoughts of making something similar to the new BC .45 Colt Carbine, that hasn't quite hit the market yet.



I picked up the wood today and tomorrow, I'll get the receiver from my FFL holder.

Since it didn't come with the original forearm, and because that's not exactly what I have envisioned for the project, I have started a stop gap forearm project.  Later on, I'll probably order a Topper Deluxe Classic forearm, in real walnut.  I like the looks and feel of the old "shotgun" style forearms! ;)



Here's what I'm starting with, after the original finish was stripped off, a little reshaping was done and the first coat of English walnut stain was applied.



I took that picture in natural light, but inside, the forearm is much lighter than the butt stock.  So, it's having a second coat of stain being applied right now.

This is what I'm going to put on the BC receiver, as it looked yesterday.



The BC case hardening is much different from what's pictured here and that will change the appearance somewhat.  I may go ahead and do the gold highlighting on the BC receiver, to enhance the lettering.  It's just a copper paint that looks like gold when it's applied in the recessed lettering.  How deep the factory set the letters, has an affect on how good the project turns out.

I may also see about using real metal on the forearm socket, instead of the plastic I have now.  I forgot to look at the trigger guard on the BC frame, to see if it's metal or plastic.  Metal is another option there as well.  I think Brownell's has both items and they may also be available from NEF/H&R.

At least, it'll be shootable while I'm doing the modifications and that's always nice!  :D

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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2007, 10:19:05 AM »
Here's the wood after curing overnight, with the second coat of English walnut stain on the forearm.



It's fairly close and the finish will change it a little too.

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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2007, 10:42:17 AM »
Hi
I like the carbine idea especially using the BC buttstock.  For me the BC stock is perfect for use with iron sights.

I have the Target, it came with plastic triggerguard.


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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2007, 11:31:35 AM »
Look'n good. And that buttstock has some real nice lines in it too 8)
Those BC stocks seem to look great on any config.


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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2007, 02:47:20 PM »
Well, I got it put together, even though the forearm still doesn't have anything besides stain on it.  Here's how it's looking.



I'll do some better pictures, with better lighting, when I get it a little further along.  ;)

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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2007, 02:52:24 PM »
Lookin good Paul!!
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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2007, 03:33:57 PM »

 Looking up Paul bad case of Handi-holic. Every body needs another Handi!
 Good luck Hope she shoots good eor you  Marv.

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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2007, 03:36:32 PM »
i like it ,, did i miss the caliber? 45/70 i  figure? yu lost me atthe 45colt, talk, is that a 22 in 45/70

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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2007, 04:08:22 PM »
Gee Shaner, I thought I had that barrel to where you could read it.  Now I have to redo the gold ".357 Mag" on it so you can read it better!   ;)

Marv, If I get the forearm floated right, it'll shoot.  On the way home with the receiver tonight, I was dreaming about some 358429s in .360 DW brass at a pedestrian 1000 fps.  It should be light recoil, sound about like a wadcutter, but be deadly at 100+ yards!

I found this target lurking around that I had forgotten about.  I usually don't use Lil'Gun, except in .22 Hornet, but this one might be worth trying again.


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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2007, 09:25:23 AM »
Here's the way the forearm turned out with a third coat of Red Devil English walnut and two coats of tung oil.



A little closer view to allow a look at the reshaping and the way the color does actually blend, even if it isn't real walnut!


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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2007, 09:50:40 AM »
NICE work, Paul!! ;)

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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2007, 10:42:24 AM »

 Loking extra good Paul,  Take Care. Marv

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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2007, 10:52:51 AM »
oh yeah i see it now that i looked i was just  reading and not  really lookin ,

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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2007, 12:15:32 PM »
Looks great.  I like just about anything 22" or less.  Is that a standard schnabel  forend or a BC forend?  Must have misssed where you said that part.
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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2007, 12:38:22 PM »
It's actually a pallet wood schnabel that I reshaped some and refinished.  The angular shape of the front part really doesn't do anything for me, so I rounded things up some with a file and sand paper.  It just goes to show NEF/H&R could do a little better on the wood than what we get.  ;) 

I'll probably still do an old style "splinter" shotgun type forearm for it in real walnut.

BTW, I suppose you can see that I also filled the lettering in on the receiver with "gold".  I kinda like to be able to read what the different ones are, so I can get what I want the first pick.  I had started using white on the barrel lettering, but really like this gold treatment better and it's a little more durable.

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Re: "new" Handi, Carbine style
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2007, 08:17:12 PM »
New report:
The Handi switch didn't work out.  The Hornet didn't like the SB1 receiver, so I switched the .357 barrel back to it's original receiver and put the 20" Hornet super light barrel on the BC wood and receiver.  As soon as I made the switch, the Hornet was back shooting like it always has and the .357 Mag seems happy with it's old '80s shotgun wood and SB1 receiver.

So, I still ended up with a carbine, but it's just half the size of a .45!  ;D

I think I'm getting a BC forearm that I'll be installing.  If/when I do, I'll post a new picture.  ;)