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goex out of production??
« on: February 04, 2007, 02:39:31 PM »
I went to order some powder from Powder inc. they said goex was out of production do to A fire?? anyone know when they will be back? or if they will be back?
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Re: goex out of production??
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2007, 04:48:36 PM »
This is our first notice.  Keep us posted.  Fire doesn't sound healthy in a black powder plant.

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Re: goex out of production??
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2007, 05:35:56 PM »
Fire Out of Control at Military Flare-Manufacturing Plant in La.
August 16, 2006

A plant that makes military flares burned out of control near Minden, La., on Aug. 15, as firefighters waited a mile away in case it set off an explosive-filled magazine.

"We're not going to send anybody in to try to fight it,'' Col. Carl V. Thompson, deputy post commander at Camp Minden, said early Aug. 15.

The fire started with an explosion as about two pounds of powder were ground into tiny granules on the afternoon of Aug. 14, said Steve Shows, vice president and general manager of Valentec Systems Inc.

He said that explosion set fire to the roof, allowing the blaze to spread through a 100-foot building with foot-thick firewalls every 20 feet.

Two buildings within 60 feet also caught fire, Shows said.

Nobody was injured. Because it is dangerous, the "granulating'' process was controlled by workers at the other end of the building, Thompson said.

He said two firefighters were overcome by heat exhaustion and given intravenous fluids.

Firefighters were pulled back at least a mile when the fire threatened a magazine holding a substantial amount of explosives, he said. Thompson said he was trying to find out how much explosive the magazine held.

Valentec makes 40-mm parachute flares, which are shot out of mortars and then float down to illuminate nighttime battlefields, Thompson said.

Camp Minden was the Louisiana Army Ammunition Plant until that was decommissioned in 1994. Louisiana took the site over from the federal government last year.

Valentec occupies a 325,000-square-foot building where the military's large-caliber munitions were produced until 1994.

The Aug. 14 explosion is the second in as many months at Camp Minden, a mixture of military operations and commercial tenants.

Goex Inc., the only black powder manufacturer in North America, was shut down in July after a small explosion, thought to have been sparked by a grass fire, destroyed equipment in the corning mill used to granulate the black powder.

Nobody was hurt, but Goex President Mick Fahringer has said he expects the plant to be out of commission for three to six months. The 27 full-time and two part-time employees remain on the payroll during repairs.

Susan Jordan, who lives across the street from the camp's entrance on U.S. Highway 80, stood on her porch Monday and looked at the smoke rising high over the plant.

"When I saw that I didn't think much of it,'' she said. "I guess we're just used to it.''

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Re: goex out of production??
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2007, 12:43:44 AM »
I think they are back inproduction. PowderInc was out of Cannon Grade for a couple months due to the fire, but it is now in stock. The Fedex tracking site says my order is on it's way. The web site no longer says that they are out of any of the sporting grades of Goex. Order while you can.

Reddog, you musta missed my posting a couple weeks ago about it being back in stock and that there was a pending price increase Feb 1. Looks like he meant it... I think it is a couple bucks a pound more in 25# orders.... Lots more more smaller orders. Not only Goex, looks like it went up across the board  :(

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Re: goex out of production??
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2007, 06:37:53 AM »
Yeah, I thought the price increase was only going to be for GOEX based on the notice they've had on their site. I wasn't expecting the Skirmish stuff to go up a couple bucks/lb. Makes a big difference on 25+ lbs!
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Re: goex out of production??
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2007, 12:00:35 PM »
Yeah, the new price increase blows, but GOEX shipped to my door is still cheaper per pound than most smokeless powders before shipping and HazMat is added.

Based on what I paid for my last shipment, which was a mixed 10-pound order (5 Fg, 2 FFg, 2 FFFg, and 1 FFFFg, all GOEX), and what I would pay today for the same order, the difference would be $12, or $1.20 per pound.

The increase looks like much more, but that's because the shipping and HazMat are now included in the price of the powder, not calculated separately the way it was when I last ordered.

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Re: goex out of production??
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2007, 01:06:02 PM »
Thanks for all the info guys, the news report from tropico said what happend. I saw too that the new prices include hazmat and shipping. The price of the imported powder is just way too much!!
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Re: goex out of production??
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2007, 01:55:19 PM »
Hah! Despite the big bold black lettering on each category, and the home page, and the order page....I just realized the shipping fees were included in the per-pound pricing listed next to each powder grade. I thought they just got rid of the haz-mat/shipping line at the bottom of the order page and included it there. Putting together my planned order made a difference of about $18 on 25 lbs. Not a big difference. $200 for 25 lbs...that will last me pretty much all year and then some. I spend much, much more on movies and beer. :P

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Re: goex out of production??
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2007, 10:33:19 AM »
Yup, your right... I went back and looked. They should have had the notice in font size 400 and flashing I think.

Anyway, my order arrived Yesterday, so 1F Skirmish and Cannon Grade Goex are both available.

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Re: goex out of production??
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2007, 01:21:04 PM »
Thanks rickk for your replies, was just wondering who did you order your powder from??
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Re: goex out of production??
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2007, 01:57:40 PM »
Powder, Inc... mainly because of the 1F "skirmish powder" they carry, that made of 3/5ths of my order. It is way way cheaper than Goex.