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Offline MOGLEY

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details are everything
« on: February 01, 2007, 04:12:57 PM »
 Decide to check each throw of the powder measure tonite ( lyman 55 ). Now I know why my shots are inconsistant. I single stage my 222 loads and have checked every tenth round in the past. Tonite I found I had to throw 4 or 5 times before I got the right amount. I am using 4198 pwder and it does get cut in the measure. I think I will try some easier powder, maybe it will throw more consistently. Anyway some ask why they have fliers, I wonder if it is something as easy to fix as check each rounds powder throw.
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Re: details are everything
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2007, 05:16:56 PM »
Try ball powders. They meter really well.
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Re: details are everything
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2007, 07:24:57 AM »
I weigh short and then trickle all of my stick powder loads.  With a ball powder like H380, H322, H335, H414, you can often get right on the mark and can throw your loads from the measure.  ;D
When you're loading up 1000 rounds for a Pdog shoot, a ball powder can be your best friend even if its not quite as accurate as one of the stick powders.
Even with ball powder, you have to be in a consistant groove in using your powder measure to get the loads to fall the same.

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Re: details are everything
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2007, 05:28:58 AM »
I have done some testing with my RCBS powder thrower (chargemaster?) and have found it is not so much the stick powder that causes inconsistanty as how the thrower is operated.  If I "bang" the handle harder on the up stroke the load with be heavier than if I just tap it at the top of the upstroke.  When I stroke it as close as I can every time the loads are with-in a gnats ass of being dead on every time, that is except for having to adjust for deviation from the descending powder level in the thrower.  Also, I don't use the plastic funnel that screw into the outlet of the thrower but put a power funnel over the case and throw into a regular funnel into the case.  This eliminates powder bridging in the thrower outlet.  My soon to be S-I-L weighs every load and finish trickles the last Nth and his loads are not as velocity consistant as mine are, and that really frustrates him.

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Re: details are everything
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2007, 06:00:48 AM »
1000 ROUNDS for a PDog shoot!!  How long does that take?! :o

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Re: details are everything
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2007, 06:03:59 AM »
I hate to say it but I've stopped using a measure (LYMAN for me).  I found it's just easier to pan weigh each round and with practice you can be pretty fast.  I use the Lee powder scoops and can get really close with the correct scoop for the powder.  BUT....ball powders are really great when you can use them.
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Re: details are everything
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2007, 08:34:56 AM »
Just like using a consistant motion with your powder measure, with practice, those Lee powder scoops can be amazingly accurate. 
It takes a while to load 1000 rounds of 22-250 ammo. But I've never done it at one sitting.  ;)  The tedious part is the case clean-up and prep. After that its pretty quick.  I use a Lee auto prime whilst watching TV and usually charge the cases and seat bullets in blocks of 100.  I would charge 100 cases and then seat the bullets.  Now I have a Lyman 1200 so I charge a case and whilst the next charge is trickling, I seat the bullet in the first case.

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Re: details are everything
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2007, 11:21:03 AM »
I was thinking of getting the lee 3 hole turret press for the range. Something portable and be able to change my loads a bit quicker than just a single stage. Having said that I am going to verify the load consistancy of the auto powder measure that drops a charge in the resizing die. If it is not very accurate from one shell to the next I won't get the turret press. I have the loadmaster for the 45acp and it does a great job but I have not measured each charge either. For the handgun I make more mistakes than I can blame on a bit different charge throw.
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