Thanks everyone, my experience with the Stevens 200 is looking very bright, is the 1st 223 i have owned and is a delight to shoot, so far i have only been able to fire 2 different loads in the gun and that was the 55 grain UMC metal case which i used to site the gun in with, i was limited to range space at the time and only done the initial site in at 50 yards, my 1st shot was 3" to the right and 2" high so i adjusted accordingly and the next 4 shots were right on, i then loaded 5 of the 60 grain soft points of Black Hills ammo and they all hit the bullseye (dime size) 4 of the rounds were touching and the other was only maybe 1/8" off. I now got to get some more range space so i can play at 100 yards or more. I bought a box of Winchester 64 grain soft points to try as well, as these and the 60 grain i will be using a lot of.