I've been around for a while and these rifles have sort to a love hate kind of attraction for me I am sorry to say. I have some basic metal working tools and skills so I think I will make up a Handi in 30 cal carbine. Probably would make a very nice ultra low recoil youth deer rifle, or one for a woman. Bought a new 26 inch 700 remington take off barrel origionally in 300 Win Mag for 43.00 shipped and a Handi shotgun for $59.00 at the local pawn shop, have a 30 carbine reamer, so I think I will stub off the shotgun, cut down the 30 cal barrel and put together a 30 carbine Handi. Anyone seen one of these? I could even thread the barrel for a muzzel break, you could end up with a rifle with a negative recoil? Just fooling, but really low like a .22? The barrels for the 300 win mags are a dime a dozen, and the Handi shotguns cost less whole than a new barrel costs, anyone see any problem shooting a 30 carbine on a SB1 frame? Larry