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Offline tomf52

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Kaboom Warning
« on: March 05, 2007, 02:27:03 PM »
The enclosed is something that may be of interest to shooters whose behaviour falls into the defined parameters:
Catastrophic Failure of Semiautomatic Handguns
>
> Date: February 23, 2007
> The following bulletin was received from the New Jersey State Police -
> Officer Safety Division
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> Continuous reloading an chambering of the same round may cause
> catastrophic failure in semiautomatic handguns.
>
> The Security Force at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in Los Alamos,
> New Mexico, recently reported on the catastrophic failure of a
> semiautomatic handgun when it was fired.  The internal explosion caused
> the frame to break while the slide and barrel separated from the weapon
> and traveled down range.  No one was injured in the incident.  An
> investigation revealed that security personnel were repeatedly charging
> the same round of ammunition into the chamber.
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> Technical personnel at Glock Inc. advise that repeated chambering of the
> same round may cause the bullet to move deeper in the casing, further
> compacting the propellent.  When a normal cartridge is fired, the
> firing
> pin his the primer, igniting the propellant.  When  the propellant
> burns, the gas pressure drives the bullet out of the case and down the
> barrel.  However, if the propellant has been compact, the pressure may
> increase beyond the gun's specifications, causing the weapon to break
> apart.  Sigarms Inc's personnel confirm that reloading the same round
> five or six times will cause the problems, noting that reloading the
> same round even once will void their warranty.  Both manufacturers
> stress that the problem is not with the gun, but with chambering the
> same round repeatedly.
>
> The NJ Regional Operations Intelligence Center urges all law enforcement
> officers not to chamber the same round when loading their weapons.
>
> ***For example, when you clean your weapon, most of us drop the magazine
> and then pull the slide back thereby ejecting the round in the barrel.
> After cleaning the weapon many of us will return the "same" round to
> the
> barrel that we initially extracted.  Each time the slide slams forward
> on that same round it seats it deeper into the cartridge.  Apparently,
> by seating the round deeper into the cartridge, it creates greater
> pressure when the round is intentionally detonated by a firing pin
> strike and is causing weapon's to explode.
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>
>

At least something to think about.

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Re: Kaboom Warning
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2007, 05:47:13 AM »
It's old news, but there are still a lot of people who don't realize that happens, and if the bullet gets pushed too deep it can cause a catastrophic failure...KB!
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Re: Kaboom Warning
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2007, 11:40:55 AM »
So what are you supposed to do?  Eject unfired rounds into the garbage can, because eventually that round will be rechambered again sometime.  Maybe if you rechamber it slooooooooowly it will be OK.

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Re: Kaboom Warning
« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2007, 02:37:54 AM »
REVOLVERS RULE!!!
The story of David & Goliath only demonstrates the superiority of ballistic projectiles over hand weapons, poor old Goliath never had a chance.

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Re: Kaboom Warning
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2007, 05:07:17 AM »
IronAir - no. Although you may toss it, you just don't chamber and unchamber the same round a couple of hundred times without some effect on the bullet.  This post, and this concern is not new.  This has happened before.  When a round is chambered so many times, the bullet gets drivern farther into the case by multiple chamberings and that significantly increases the pressure.  If you are worried about a particular round, stand it new to a fresh one and see if the bullet is seated more deeply that the other.  If it is, you may wish to toss it or, use a bullet pullet to get it back to proper oal.  Mikey.

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Re: Kaboom Warning
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2007, 08:09:36 PM »
this is talking about over time...  if you are chamber your rounds enough to cause a failure without having the chance to fire them... you arent getting enough practice, and I hope my safety isnt in your hands.....  take your carry guns out and empty the shells every once in a while.
"At least with a gun that big, if you miss and hit the rocks in front of him it'll stone him to death..."

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Re: Kaboom Warning
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2007, 05:56:03 PM »
Amen Coyotejoe! ;D
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