I feel your pain BigBill, I bought an 1863 58 cal 3 bander from a fellow off another site last year for $400.00. He stated that it was NEW, when I received it, I found that it had been fired and not cleaned. There was even a small charge of black powder in the breech area. The barrel was very rusty, and would not come clean. When I told the guy about it, he said he thought I still got a good deal at $400.00 even with a rusty bore, I thought not. Anyway he refused to return my money and I ended up with a rusty gun and a bad taste in my mouth. Anymore I always ask about a return period.