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Offline Selmer

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Anybody considered necking down a .454 case?
« on: February 28, 2007, 04:52:59 PM »
Just looking at my .454 cases the other while loading and comparing to the 6mm PPC cases on my bench.  Has anyone ever necked the .454 down or would that be almost identical to the BR cases except with a rim?  Just curious, let me know your thoughts.
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Re: Anybody considered necking down a .454 case?
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2007, 07:18:28 AM »
.454 is just a strenghtened version of the ancient .45 Long Colt case. Little longer too.  Doubt that there is much that hasn't been done with this case. And now with the .454's strength... Mr. Stark took the .44 Mag to .224. Pain making cases but they were supposed to last forever and performance like .222/.219/ etc. Mr. Masker used the .30/30 with small primer pocket to duplicate the capacity of the PPC back when PPC brass was in shortage. luck.

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Re: Anybody considered necking down a .454 case?
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2007, 02:42:37 PM »
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Re: Anybody considered necking down a .454 case?
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2007, 05:27:11 PM »
JD Jones of SSK Industries has been doing it about as long as the .454 case has been around I guess. I'm pretty sure he has a .429" and a .400" JDJ round on it, not sure about others.


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Re: Anybody considered necking down a .454 case?
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2007, 03:59:33 AM »
   I have necked it down as far as 17 caliber. Dave Kiff, at Pacific Tool and Gauge made the chamber reamer. The only 2 calibers I played with on that case other than 45, was 357, and 17. RCBS has made dies for someone else that did a 17 on it. It can be a pain in the butt to neck down when you pass around the 30 caliber mark. It took 11 dies to go from 45 to 17 caliber. You can get there with fewer dies but the less dies you use the more cases you lose. It is a very strong case, but there are other cases that will do just as well with a lot less work. When I was a kid and first got interested in wildcats I was asking an old man that built wildcats"Why people built them". He told me that if you have to ask you will never understand. The older I get the better I understand what he was saying. Over the years I have built from a .10 caliber to a 12 gauge slug gun. I'll be the first to admit that some were not worth the time and money spent on them. The thing about wildcats is you can't build just one, and logic is not always a factor in the creation of some of the best. Build one if you really want to find out what it will do. You will at worst case have a "One of a kind", and that ain't bad.