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Offline jamaldog87

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light kickers
« on: March 01, 2007, 01:09:46 PM »
i am look for a powerful light kicking cal. to shoot for most game. I have a heart problem that keeps me from useing hard kick guns so i went something poweful but light. I looking at the 308 win,270 win, maybe 30/06,7mm Rem. Magnum, 7mm-08 Rem. i like the 308 win becuase it has about the same power as the 30/06 in a short gun.
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Re: light kickers
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2007, 01:26:56 PM »
What will you be using it for? My wife's .243 has almost no kick. There is also low recoil ammo for the 30-06 and .308. I have a friend that swears by the 7mm-08 (basically a .284 in a .308 cartridge).

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Re: light kickers
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2007, 05:49:20 AM »
My Stevens 200 in .308 with the addition of a good recoil pad is very pleasant to shoot.  Also if you reload you can ‘load it down” until the bullets match 30-30 ballistics.  These will kick even less and are still sufficient for deer.  I am assuming your not making 200 yd. Shots. :)
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Re: light kickers
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2007, 06:03:06 AM »
Things to consider are: what you're using the rifle for, are you needing less felt or free (actual) recoil, how heavy of a rifle can you carry, and do you or are you willing to reload? A .243 is a good choice for deer under 250 yards IMO. The 7mm-08 in some rifles is quite tame and in my Rem 7600 pump has some kick shooting off of a bench. This is due to stock design. A .260 is probably a good canidate for you but I have no experience with it.
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Re: light kickers
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2007, 07:01:36 AM »
i am look for a powerful light kicking cal. to shoot for most game. I have a heart problem that keeps me from useing hard kick guns so i went something poweful but light. I looking at the 308 win,270 win, maybe 30/06,7mm Rem. Magnum, 7mm-08 Rem. i like the 308 win becuase it has about the same power as the 30/06 in a short gun.

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "light kicking."  Some would consider the 30/06 a heavy kicker and the 308 Win. will kick about the same.  They can both take any game in North America.

Of the cartridges you list above, the 7mm/08 and the 270 Win. would have the least kick.  They can both take animals up to moose and elk though many conisder them a bit light for these larger animals.  They could also be used for the great bears but they wouldn't be my choice.

If all you're after is animals up to the size of deer, a 222 Rem., 22-250 Rem. and 243 Win. would all work with quite mild recoil.  Another approach is to use a muzzel brake.

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Re: light kickers
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2007, 07:21:32 AM »
i looking for something for most game here in the US( not bears) at about 200 yards or less. can the 270 or 7mm-08 do this? i did shoot and use a 8mm tanker and a 454 ruger and the 8mm had a limbsaver recoil pad on it and if i get the 270 or 7mm i going to put a limbsaver recoil pad on it too.
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Re: light kickers
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2007, 07:56:18 AM »
The .270 or 7-08 will do anything you need including black bear and elk. The .270 has more factory load options and ammo more easily found. I have a 7-08 and it is a great cartridge. I have used 140gr Reminton ammo for my 7-08 with good results. The 7-08 is equal to the 7mm Mauser which is highly regarded overseas.
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Re: light kickers
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2007, 08:53:54 AM »
for sure,  the 270.

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Re: light kickers
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2007, 02:13:38 AM »
i looking for something for most game here in the US( not bears) at about 200 yards or less. can the 270 or 7mm-08 do this?

Either are definitely suitable.  The 7mm/08 has a better reputation for inherent accuracy than the 270.  There is an adequate variety of loaded ammunition and handloading components for both.  If I were picking one or the other, it would be the 7mm/08.

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Re: light kickers
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2007, 03:54:12 PM »
The 7-08 is about as good as it gets in balance of power and recoil.  A real sleeper is the .260.  I  have shot a couple of WT deer since moving to WV with a .260 and a 140gr Corelokt bullet.  Impressive performance with the deer DRT.  They say they use the .260's ugly little twin, the 6.5 Swede, on elk and moose in Sweden.  I don't know that I'd try that unless I didn't have anything else to shoot them with.   For mulies on down, I'd feel very comfortable with either the 7-08 or the .260. ;)

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Re: light kickers
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2007, 12:45:53 AM »
They say they use the .260's ugly little twin, the 6.5 Swede, on elk and moose in Sweden.  I don't know that I'd try that unless I didn't have anything else to shoot them with.   For mulies on down, I'd feel very comfortable with either the 7-08 or the .260. ;)

I'd use the 6.5 Swede on elk or moose any day.  There may be a little confusion here as well.  Maybe they have elk in Sweden; I know they have moose.  In Norwiegen, elg (pronounced like elk) means moose.  Since the languages are quite similar, the same confusion would probably arise in Sweden.

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Re: light kickers
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2007, 08:59:59 AM »
i found this on line: the 30/06 with a 180gr has 21.44 pounds of recoil energy and the 270 with 150gr has 18.12.  even with low recoil ammo from federal the 30/06 has 10.6 with a 170gr bullet but has less power then a full load. with a kickes on a 270 i can get it down to 9.06. so  it looks like the 270 is the way to go, thanks for the help.
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Re: light kickers
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2007, 02:14:41 PM »
There ain't nuthin the .270 can do that can't be trumped by the 7-08!!!!  >:(

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Re: light kickers
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2007, 02:46:45 PM »
I had a bad shoulder so I had to give up my rem 700 in a 30-06. The gun store guy convinced me to buy a Rem 700 in a 7-08. It has almost no recoil and the deer didn't seem to notice the difference after I shot them. Due to the popularity of the 7-08 the price of ammo is reasonable as opposed to some other calibers.

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Re: light kickers
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2007, 05:03:43 PM »
There ain't nuthin the .270 can do that can't be trumped by the 7-08!!!!  >:(
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Re: light kickers
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2007, 06:21:30 AM »
yeah but it has less power then the 270 right? also i can get 100gr loads for the 270 and shoot coyotes and ground hogs.

like my 45acp i used to have i  like something that can do two thing one cal.

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