have any of you tried out a ringed slug? you can make one out of any shot shell.take a sharp knife and cut around the wad above the wad cup leave just a little bit of shell holding it together slide it in and fire.works great leaves a hole like a wad cutter would. so if you are in a bind and need a slug try this. i got the idea and instructions from " poormmans james bond" by delta press. try a dove or target load if interested,you will be surprised ,any ?/comments bill myers /remwingmaster@peoplepc.com