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Offline McLernon

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~400 gr. bullet casting/sizing for the 45-70
« on: April 20, 2007, 05:08:59 PM »
I have a Marlin XLR that has Ballard rifling and would like to cast bullets for it. Other than a melter and ladle, which I already have what equipment should I get.

Any help much appreciated!

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Offline Lloyd Smale

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Re: ~400 gr. bullet casting/sizing for the 45-70
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2007, 11:13:33 PM »
best bet for a mold to start with would be the 405 rcbs round flat. ITs been accurate in every gun ive shot it in. Id pick up a lube sizer and a die. Die size should be .459-.460 a quality lube. Two commercial ones ive had good luck with are lbt bllue soft and javalina. That mold is a gas check mold so you would also need a box of gas checks.
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Re: ~400 gr. bullet casting/sizing for the 45-70
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2007, 04:40:40 PM »
Howdy,
What are you going to use the rifle for? If you plan to use black powder for a propellant, I'd recommend the Lyman #457193, 457191, or 457122 moulds. They are 405 grains, 292 grains, and 330 grains respectively. All are plain base and work really well in lever guns. Lee also has a hollow-base 400-grain mould that works well and is easy to use.
The 457191 is especially flat-shooting when loaded with Hodgdon's 777. The 457193 is the standard 405-grain levergun bullet that was invented way back when. I start with 40 grains of Reloder7 in my 1886 Winchester, but the books go much higher.
If you plan to make a 458 Win Mag out of your Marlin, you'll want a gas-checked bullet and a thick rubber butt-pad.
You can find a bullet sizing press on eBay. I'd recommend an old #45 press, if you can find one. The newer ones are harder to use. They all use the same dies and top-punches. I size all my .45-70 bullets to .459" and lube with Alox for smokeless loads, and Wonderlube for BP loads. For really high-speed loads, you might want to try a harder lube, but those sometimes need a heated base-plate to work. Alox is great stuff.
You'll need a copy of Lyman's Cast Bullet Handbook. It is filled with good info on all aspects of casting.

Good Luck,
Bitterroot