Here IT Comes...What Do All These Experts Have In Common?

[TM7]

What do they all have in common? Doubts and demands I should say. Are the walls starting to crumble?
You decide.
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http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

...TM7

[jgalar]

 

[Skeptic10787]

...yada, yada, yada... nothing new. Everyone wants answers but nobody wants to accept anything.
Getting boring.
Is there anything the government can say that anyone will believe? Doubt it. So where does it end?

Seems like all you have to do to win public support is say something along the lines of "it just doesn't add up... the public needs answers....the public deserves the truth....the government is hiding something"

[Skeptic10787]

No hidden message, I assure.

Just pointing out that it will be a "conspiracy" till the end of time. Even if/when the truth comes out, if it hasn't already, the public (along with public figures who want attenetion) will never accept it. People want clean cut answers, but will never get them.
Point being... I could care less if George W Bush himself comes out and says "something doesn't add up with 9/11". Nothing different than what I've been hearing for the past 5 years, and I'm sure I'll be hearing the same thing for the rest of my life.

[Skeptic10787]

OKay,,,I suppose that is a valid point of view as long as one is comfortable with mass murder, crimes against the American people, misuse of funds, violations of oath, propagations of misinformation, treason, erroneous foreign policies, and about 50 other grave violations. It also would take willing acceptance of any future 'crimes' against the Republic

Ok...not what I said and definitely not what I meant... but if that's how you wish to take it, all the power to you.

[Skeptic10787]

That's a little closer to what I meant.... but I didn't so much as even indicate I was "comfortable with mass murder, crimes against the American people, misuse of funds, violations of oath, propagations of misinformation, treason, erroneous foreign policies, and about 50 other grave violations".

What I'm saying is that there will never be an end. The public will never accept anything the government says, and therefore, will not accept the truth even if it is released. Lets say a non-government entity discovers the truth... with the countless different theories created by countless folks "in the know"...I doubt the public would believe that either.
You mention proof, science, testimony, evidence, expert evaluation, whistleblowers ect... every different side of the story has their own of each. What makes the difference is whichever one a person chooses to believe.
Don't get me wrong... I'm not saying I don't believe the government is hiding the truth. Just tired of hearing the same 'ol stuff, just with a different twist.

[Lone Star]

This has parallels to many other big US conspiracies.  Take JFK - plenty of "big hitters" have backed the conspiracy camps - but we are no closer now to a resolution on the subject than we were 40 years ago....and we never will be.  Too many folks have gotten rich by spreading conspiracy theories, and as usual if you want to find the truth - follow the money.  Publishing conspiracy books is a great way to get rich....viva a free society where anyone can publish any trash he wants to write, and where there will always be those who will buy anything.  Pet rocks for pete's sakes.   


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[Skeptic10787]

How is it cynical? He's absolutely right. Anyone and everyone can come up with a conspiracy theory... and like the past, it's happening again.

I don't think he's denying the "grand" conspiracy... just that we will never know which one is right, if any. Just because big wigs are coming up with their own theories doesn't mean they're automatically right. Look at history for that proof.

[Skeptic10787]

You seem to indicate that there is no alternatives to illusion, tricks, dishonesty, conspiracy, false perception, dirty tricks, etc.   .....?

For the most part, yes. I have learned through my years to assume that everybody has an ulterior motive, until proven otherwise. Humans become so passionate about their beliefs (especially those with the best intentions) that they often will ignore or even hide the truth so as not to prove themselves wrong, or even worse, to agree that "the other side" was correct. Is that cynical? A little.

Humans are dumb. One human may be smart, but put a bunch together and give them something to argue about... stupidity and selfishness reign.

[jerkface11]

 For those of you who for some reason think that muslim terrorists are incapable of murdering thousands of people. What do you think happened? I see that you doubt the official story. However I don't see your version of the events. Would you mind enlightening us?

[jerkface11]

 Just as I suspected none of you is willing to share your theory. When asking questions like mine the answer is ALWAYS "click this link and decide for yourself you're obviously ignorant and must study to understand". It's laughable you're willing to post that the official story is all lies but you aren't willing to say what you think really happened. Why not just tell us your theory?

[jerkface11]

Ok that's what i thought you'd say. Now where's that ignore button.

[Bane]

What do they all have in common? Doubts and demands I should say. Are the walls starting to crumble?
You decide.
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http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

...TM7

I have to say that after the section "90+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials" The site loses credibility. Now I am not against 9/11 inside job sites websites but I do not really like places that seem to use celebrities and professors as good sources. I also can't stand people going around calling themselves patriots all the time. The final thing about sites like this is while it may seem like a lot of people question the official story they should have a list of all the 'experts' that don't

[jerkface11]

 Since they've either taken away or hidden the ignore function I'll once again cast pearls before swine.

 Here is what actually happened. On 9-11 20 muslim terrorists some of whom had flight training Hijacked 4 airliners. Then then flew 3 of them into buildings. The fourth one crashed into a field in Pennsylvania. Oddly enough it seems that crashing a large jetliner with full fuel tanks into a sky scraper at over 400mph causes catastrophic collapse. A large chunk of the pentagon was also destroyed.

 There is nothing outlandish silly or strange about ANY of that. It doesn't require a huge government coverup. It doesn't need an all powerful international ruling class. And it certainly doesn't need Alex Jones or his ilk.

 I know you'll probably start babbling about WTC7. The fact is it was destroyed by the debris flow from one of the towers. Next you'll say it wasn't a plane that hit the pentagon. If it wasn't a plane WHAT WAS IT? No missile in anyones inventory can do that. If you don't believe me find the supposed missile on THIS website http://www.fas.org/man/ . Now you'll probably say the WTC towers were rigged with explosives. If so who planted them? When? How long did it take? Find me ONE person in the explosive demolition business who says the towers were taken down with explosives. Next it will probably be something to do with the planes being remote controlled. This one is almost too silly to deal with. I'll debunk it the easy way. If the planes had been remote controlled it's reasonable to assume an expert pilot would have been flying them. In which case they would have went straight to their targets. No last minute maneuvering no sudden course changes. This is not the case. I'm sure you'll throw in something about jet fuel not burning hot enough to melt steel girders too. So show me a picture of a girder that melted. If you can do that we'll go from there.

[jerkface11]

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