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Offline lgm270

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7mm Mauser or 30.06 in Brazilian Mauser
« on: April 14, 2007, 06:35:26 PM »
I'm trying to decide on a Brazilian Mauser in either 7x57 or 30.06.  I can only have one, although both are available. 

Does anyone have any recommendations or thoughts regarding which I should choose?   

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Re: 7mm Mauser or 30.06 in Brazilian Mauser
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2007, 02:17:43 AM »
LGM,

If it was me I would go with the 7x57, but I have always liked that round and have found that it shoots well for me if hanloaded.

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Re: 7mm Mauser or 30.06 in Brazilian Mauser
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2007, 02:21:13 AM »
Igm270 - I would opt for the 06.  The 7x57 is a great round but I like the 06 more.  If you ever decide you want one in 7mm, you can just have it rebarrelled.  JMHO.  Mikey.

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Re: 7mm Mauser or 30.06 in Brazilian Mauser
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2007, 04:23:45 AM »
If you are looking for a collectible then then I would go with the 7mm because I think that it was the original caliber for the rifle.  I suspect that some of these rifles were later re-chambered for 30-06 because of the 06' popularity as a hunting round.  On the other hand since the '06 was cut last it is more probable that the bore would be in better condition than the 7mm....but not guaranteed.

For hunting purposes both rounds are excellent.  If you have a chance to look at the rifles I think I would opt for whichever is in the best condition.

Just my thoughts,
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Re: 7mm Mauser or 30.06 in Brazilian Mauser
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2007, 04:31:57 AM »
I prefer the 7x57 to the 06..
But the 06 is available just about anywhere.
sometimes it is hard to find over the counter 7x57 ammo.
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Re: 7mm Mauser or 30.06 in Brazilian Mauser
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2007, 04:34:29 AM »
If you plan to shoot the gun a lot you should probably get the 30-06 because ammo is cheaper and more plentiful, though I would be very careful because some of the early 7x57's were not designed to withstand higher pressure in the chamber...If you are a reloader, it would be more fun to own the 7x57 and load your own rounds...Be careful though to not load them too hot.
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Re: 7mm Mauser or 30.06 in Brazilian Mauser
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2007, 07:49:31 AM »
Thanks for all your great responses.

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Re: 7mm Mauser or 30.06 in Brazilian Mauser
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2007, 02:33:13 PM »
Well, I seem to have come into this late, but the 7x57 is a brilliant cartridge.
The 30-06 can be had in any form or combination but the grand old 7mm Mauser created by the late, great Paul Mauser is sadly becoming harder to find and more fool those who are enabling this.
It has power enough to take almost all big game and very mild recoil.
Roudy is right the 30-06 in Mauser action thing although in a different way.
Brazil rebarrelled their 7mm Mausers to 30-06 mid way through the 20th century, probably because they could purchase cheap mil ammo from the USA, but the action is much better suited to the original 57mm case rather than the 30-06's 63mm case and it involved a certain amount of magazine lengthening and other reworking to have them feed reliably.
The 7x57 is a perfect round to reload.
Frankly I don't know what Aardvark means about overloading it as good brass will last ages and is safe to boot.
The current US factory fodder is loaded to truly anaemic SAAMI specs that were established to ensure that fools with suspect Mauser 93s or Remington rolling blocks would not shoot hot loads through them.
The M98 is well up to 50k psi and more and even the 93, 94 and 95 Mauser in 7mm are quite up to 45k psi, which is considerably higher than SAAMI spec.
The good European ammo like Norma or RWS is seriously powerful although exy.
So get yourself a nice 7x57 and load it up to around 50k psi.
It'll match and better a 7mm-08 at the top end of it's loads, loves heavier bullets, uses less powder than the '06 and generates less recoil and the choice of projectiles is very wide.
Can you tell I'm a 7mm fan?  ;)

Incidentally, if you've already bought what did you choose?  ???
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Re: 7mm Mauser or 30.06 in Brazilian Mauser
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2007, 04:28:23 AM »
I have a 1908 Brazilian Mauser made by DWM. It came in 7X57 Mauser. The barrel was not good but the action was as smooth as glass I bought and A&B pre chambered 7X57 barrel and fitted to this rifle. It is now my primary deer rifle. It will shoot one hole groups at 100 yds with a max load of IMR 4350 and 140 gr Nosler BT it is doing 2900 fps. It shoots and kills remarkedly well. My vote is it was made org for 7X57 I would probably leave it that way.